Stefan GP could make it after all.

Stefan GP could make it after all.#185832

By NateDawg80126 - 17 Feb 10, 01:59

- 17 Feb 10, 01:59#185832

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The possibility of this has been mentioned before but it looks like the idea of 14 teams has recently been given more thought as Ecclestone has spoken with the prime minister of Serbia about the teams finances. I wouldn't really prefer them over any of the current teams, but if we could expand the grid a bit more I think it would be great. Their potential drivers are also impressive, would love to see any of those three back on the grid.

Re: Stefan GP could make it after all.#185833

By Jabberwocky - 17 Feb 10, 02:03

- 17 Feb 10, 02:03#185833

I think it has more to do with the fact that Bernie has seen the state of some of the other teams.

A racing car that does not win, is just art

Re: Stefan GP could make it after all.#185906

By 7UpJordan - 17 Feb 10, 18:22

- 17 Feb 10, 18:22#185906

It would be nice to see a whopping 28 car grid. But I hope Stefan GP don't get in at the expense of Bruno Senna.

"And Mansell was lucky not to be taken off by that RIDICULOUS bit of driving by Alliot!!" - James Hunt
"AAAAAND into the pitlane..... OHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!" - Murray Walker

Re: Stefan GP could make it after all.#185909

By Denthúl - 17 Feb 10, 18:32

- 17 Feb 10, 18:32#185909

7UpJordan wrote:It would be nice to see a whopping 28 car grid. But I hope Stefan GP don't get in at the expense of Bruno Senna.

If it's a choice between a midfield team and two mediocre drivers or a backmarker and one potentially good driver, I'd choose the former. Campos have become a complete joke.

Re: Stefan GP could make it after all.#185922

By Jensonb - 17 Feb 10, 20:12

- 17 Feb 10, 20:12#185922

Denthúl wrote:
7UpJordan wrote:It would be nice to see a whopping 28 car grid. But I hope Stefan GP don't get in at the expense of Bruno Senna.
If it's a choice between a midfield team and two mediocre drivers or a backmarker and one potentially good driver, I'd choose the former. Campos have become a complete joke.

Absolutely. Competent teams win out over potentially good drivers. Let's face it, F1 2010 is not short of stories or hot shots.

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Re: Stefan GP could make it after all.#185927

By 7UpJordan - 17 Feb 10, 20:24

- 17 Feb 10, 20:24#185927

If StefanGP enter with Ralf and Nakajima as their drivers they will become the very same backmarkers that Campos may be.

"And Mansell was lucky not to be taken off by that RIDICULOUS bit of driving by Alliot!!" - James Hunt
"AAAAAND into the pitlane..... OHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!" - Murray Walker

Re: Stefan GP could make it after all.#185930

By Denthúl - 17 Feb 10, 20:29

- 17 Feb 10, 20:29#185930

7UpJordan wrote:If StefanGP enter with Ralf and Nakajima as their drivers they will become the very same backmarkers that Campos may be.

Hardly. Even in his years at Toyota, Ralf managed to score 70 points. He's capable of running a car in the mid-field.

Re: Stefan GP could make it after all.#185932

By 7UpJordan - 17 Feb 10, 20:30

- 17 Feb 10, 20:30#185932

Denthúl wrote:
7UpJordan wrote:If StefanGP enter with Ralf and Nakajima as their drivers they will become the very same backmarkers that Campos may be.
Hardly. Even in his years at Toyota, Ralf managed to score 70 points. He's capable of running a car in the mid-field.

He was also just as capable of running it at the back as well, especially in his last season.

"And Mansell was lucky not to be taken off by that RIDICULOUS bit of driving by Alliot!!" - James Hunt
"AAAAAND into the pitlane..... OHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!" - Murray Walker

Re: Stefan GP could make it after all.#185933

By scotty - 17 Feb 10, 20:32

- 17 Feb 10, 20:32#185933

Here's what i don't get - why would Toyota be so keen to get Nakajima in that car? I don't see what they'd have to gain from it at all.

Rising number one of Formula 1, Juan - Juan, one wonders should Juan only win one Formula 1 one year, would Juan have won that one in round one, Juan??

Re: Stefan GP could make it after all.#185934

By 7UpJordan - 17 Feb 10, 20:34

- 17 Feb 10, 20:34#185934

scotty wrote:Here's what i don't get - why would Toyota be so keen to get Nakajima in that car? I don't see what they'd have to gain from it at all.

They are either blind or plan to order him to trip over leaders when they come up to lap him.

"And Mansell was lucky not to be taken off by that RIDICULOUS bit of driving by Alliot!!" - James Hunt
"AAAAAND into the pitlane..... OHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!" - Murray Walker

Re: Stefan GP could make it after all.#185935

By Denthúl - 17 Feb 10, 20:36

- 17 Feb 10, 20:36#185935

7UpJordan wrote:
Denthúl wrote:
7UpJordan wrote:If StefanGP enter with Ralf and Nakajima as their drivers they will become the very same backmarkers that Campos may be.
Hardly. Even in his years at Toyota, Ralf managed to score 70 points. He's capable of running a car in the mid-field.
He was also just as capable of running it at the back as well, especially in his last season.

A bad car is a bad car, which is more than likely what Campos' car will be.

scotty wrote:Here's what i don't get - why would Toyota be so keen to get Nakajima in that car? I don't see what they'd have to gain from it at all.

I imagine they likely have the same pressure as Honda did with Sato from the Japanese public.

Re: Stefan GP could make it after all.#185938

By scotty - 17 Feb 10, 20:41

- 17 Feb 10, 20:41#185938

Denthúl wrote:
scotty wrote:Here's what i don't get - why would Toyota be so keen to get Nakajima in that car? I don't see what they'd have to gain from it at all.
I imagine they likely have the same pressure as Honda did with Sato from the Japanese public.

To me this situation is quite a bit different to Sato though, Super Aguri were Honda funded whereas Stefan have merely purchased assets from Toyota. I guess my point is not why Toyota want Nakajima in the car, but why Stefan are (apparently) considering it? Seems crazy and illogical to me...

Rising number one of Formula 1, Juan - Juan, one wonders should Juan only win one Formula 1 one year, would Juan have won that one in round one, Juan??

Re: Stefan GP could make it after all.#185941

By Denthúl - 17 Feb 10, 20:42

- 17 Feb 10, 20:42#185941

scotty wrote:
Denthúl wrote:
scotty wrote:Here's what i don't get - why would Toyota be so keen to get Nakajima in that car? I don't see what they'd have to gain from it at all.
I imagine they likely have the same pressure as Honda did with Sato from the Japanese public.
To me this situation is quite a bit different to Sato though, Super Aguri were Honda funded whereas Stefan have merely purchased assets from Toyota. I guess my point is not why Toyota want Nakajima in the car, but why Stefan are (apparently) considering it? Seems crazy and illogical to me...

Toyota are also providing some technical staff to help Stefan out.

Re: Stefan GP could make it after all.#185945

By scotty - 17 Feb 10, 20:46

- 17 Feb 10, 20:46#185945

Denthúl wrote:
scotty wrote:
Denthúl wrote:
scotty wrote:Here's what i don't get - why would Toyota be so keen to get Nakajima in that car? I don't see what they'd have to gain from it at all.
I imagine they likely have the same pressure as Honda did with Sato from the Japanese public.
To me this situation is quite a bit different to Sato though, Super Aguri were Honda funded whereas Stefan have merely purchased assets from Toyota. I guess my point is not why Toyota want Nakajima in the car, but why Stefan are (apparently) considering it? Seems crazy and illogical to me...
Toyota are also providing some technical staff to help Stefan out.

I guess that changes a lot, i had heard they had been outright hired by Stefan after being made redundant from Toyota's F1 programme.

Rising number one of Formula 1, Juan - Juan, one wonders should Juan only win one Formula 1 one year, would Juan have won that one in round one, Juan??

Re: Stefan GP could make it after all.#185947

By Denthúl - 17 Feb 10, 20:47

- 17 Feb 10, 20:47#185947

scotty wrote:
Denthúl wrote:
scotty wrote:
Denthúl wrote:
scotty wrote:Here's what i don't get - why would Toyota be so keen to get Nakajima in that car? I don't see what they'd have to gain from it at all.
I imagine they likely have the same pressure as Honda did with Sato from the Japanese public.
To me this situation is quite a bit different to Sato though, Super Aguri were Honda funded whereas Stefan have merely purchased assets from Toyota. I guess my point is not why Toyota want Nakajima in the car, but why Stefan are (apparently) considering it? Seems crazy and illogical to me...
Toyota are also providing some technical staff to help Stefan out.
I guess that changes a lot, i had heard they had been outright hired by Stefan after being made redundant from Toyota's F1 programme.

As far as I'm aware they are still Toyota employees. I could be wrong about that, though, now that you say that :/

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