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[Fred_C_Dobbs]

I get why Ferrari is doing it... and taking all of it's Ferrari powered offspring with them. But can someone explain to me why Red Bull are doing it?...

I think they'd grown weary of all the insinuations they were in violation of RRA. If/when the rumours began affecting their ability to operate, the simplest, surest remedy would have been to leave FOTA.

[What's Burning?]

I get why Ferrari is doing it... and taking all of it's Ferrari powered offspring with them. But can someone explain to me why Red Bull are doing it?...

I think they'd grown weary of all the insinuations they were in violation of RRA. If/when the rumours began affecting their ability to operate, the simplest, surest remedy would have been to leave FOTA.

Doesn't seem as if they're having a hard time operating within the confines though. I mean, why change the rules if they're working for you or I should say if you've made them work for you. I don't quite buy that explanation, there's got to be more going on.

[andrew]

Whitmarsh will be Billy No-mates soon.

You mean McLaren will be Billy No-mates soon.

No I meant what I said. Whitmarsh is head of it.

It's a body of teams not people so therefore saying Whitmarsh will be Billy No-mates is incorrect.

[racechick]

Whitmarsh will be Billy No-mates soon.

You mean McLaren will be Billy No-mates soon.

No I meant what I said. Whitmarsh is head of it.

It's a body of teams not people so therefore saying Whitmarsh will be Billy No-mates is incorrect.

No its not, because he heads it.

[andrew]

Whitmarsh will be Billy No-mates soon.

You mean McLaren will be Billy No-mates soon.

No I meant what I said. Whitmarsh is head of it.

It's a body of teams not people so therefore saying Whitmarsh will be Billy No-mates is incorrect.

No its not, because he heads it.

But represents a team. We don't speak about FOTA comprising Whitmarsh, Domenicalli, Horner, etc etc, we speak about McLaren, Ferrari, Red Bull etc etc being in FOTA. See?

[racechick]

Whitmarsh will be Billy No-mates soon.

You mean McLaren will be Billy No-mates soon.

No I meant what I said. Whitmarsh is head of it.

It's a body of teams not people so therefore saying Whitmarsh will be Billy No-mates is incorrect.

No its not, because he heads it.

But represents a team. We don't speak about FOTA comprising Whitmarsh, Domenicalli, Horner, etc etc, we speak about McLaren, Ferrari, Red Bull etc etc being in FOTA. See?

Just when I thought things were going swimmingly with us babe.....you pull this one

[andrew]

Whitmarsh will be Billy No-mates soon.

You mean McLaren will be Billy No-mates soon.

No I meant what I said. Whitmarsh is head of it.

It's a body of teams not people so therefore saying Whitmarsh will be Billy No-mates is incorrect.

No its not, because he heads it.

But he represents a team. We don't speak about FOTA comprising Whitmarsh, Domenicalli, Horner, etc etc, we speak about McLaren, Ferrari, Red Bull etc etc being in FOTA. See?

Just when I thought things were going swimmingly with us babe.....you pull this one

I'm just having a bit of fun ruining your Whitmarsh bashing. All good banter.

As someone at work likes to say "All good in the hood", which I find to be the most stupid saying as our workplace is not in a hood and he doesn't hail from the hood, unless he's referring to the hood on my hi-viz jacket. How's that for off topic?!

[racechick]

Whitmarsh will be Billy No-mates soon.

You mean McLaren will be Billy No-mates soon.

No I meant what I said. Whitmarsh is head of it.

It's a body of teams not people so therefore saying Whitmarsh will be Billy No-mates is incorrect.

No its not, because he heads it.

But he represents a team. We don't speak about FOTA comprising Whitmarsh, Domenicalli, Horner, etc etc, we speak about McLaren, Ferrari, Red Bull etc etc being in FOTA. See?

Just when I thought things were going swimmingly with us babe.....you pull this one

I'm just having a bit of fun ruining your Whitmarsh bashing. All good banter.

As someone at work likes to say "All good in the hood", which I find to be the most stupid saying as our workplace is not in a hood and he doesn't hail from the hood, unless he's referring to the hood on my hi-viz jacket. How's that for off topic?!

I wasnt actually trying to bash him there, becuase I think the teams should stick together..............But good answer, you've redeemed yourself

[andrew]

Whitmarsh will be Billy No-mates soon.

You mean McLaren will be Billy No-mates soon.

No I meant what I said. Whitmarsh is head of it.

It's a body of teams not people so therefore saying Whitmarsh will be Billy No-mates is incorrect.

No its not, because he heads it.

But he represents a team. We don't speak about FOTA comprising Whitmarsh, Domenicalli, Horner, etc etc, we speak about McLaren, Ferrari, Red Bull etc etc being in FOTA. See?

Just when I thought things were going swimmingly with us babe.....you pull this one

I'm just having a bit of fun ruining your Whitmarsh bashing. All good banter.

As someone at work likes to say "All good in the hood", which I find to be the most stupid saying as our workplace is not in a hood and he doesn't hail from the hood, unless he's referring to the hood on my hi-viz jacket. How's that for off topic?!

I wasnt actually trying to bash him there, becuase I think the teams should stick together..............But good answer, you've redeemed yourself

I'm surprised by my quick thinking - that blow to the head (I'm being serious, I have a cut) must have sped things up.

[Hammer278]

I'm surprised by my quick thinking - that blow to the head (I'm being serious, I have a cut) must have sped things up.

Explains a lot.

[bud]

F.O.T.A. = Formula One Teams Association

Not Formula One Team Principles Association.

[racechick]

F.O.T.A. = Formula One Teams Association

Not Formula One Team Principles Association.

Jeez lighten up! Dont you start as well.

[andrew]

F.O.T.A. = Formula One Teams Association

Not Formula One Team Principles Association.

Jeez lighten up! Dont you start as well.

Go Bud, go Bud!

[racechick]

OK. I'll spell it out Yes its the teams association, Id got that bit. But I dont see mechanics, engineers, drivers, chassis, engines, physiotherapists, removal men, caterers, PR people, tyres,etc, etc, etc sitting round the table during meetings. The person doing that, who will be left with no-one to talk to if teams continue to leave, will be the person who heads the FOTA group...and it happens to be Whitmarsh.

[scotty]

But who are you going to pick to represent the team? Team principal obviously... you can't send them all in!