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[texasmr2]

Ah ok now I get it .

[racechick]

Any thoughts on the weight of the Ferrari engine? 12 to 15 kg heavier than the Renault, on average 5 kg heavier than the merc. Worst case scenarion(15kg heaver )is worth about 0.45s per lap, and all that penalty will now be carried at the beginning of the race. Is ferrari going to suffer at the starts?

[vaptin]

Probably, added to the fact they'll be starting with a car heavy relative to the others on the grid. Although they can work on outside components of the engine, maybe they've worked on it.

[bud]

hard to dismiss the B spec rumour with the testing so far. Its impossible to make any judgement when the weights are not known. Most teams would be testing long runs and tyre wear against an ever decreasing fuel load and not low fuel runs. Yet if a team were in trouble with aero then youd want to do low fuel runs to get an optimal judgement.

[Gaz]

hard to dismiss the B spec rumour with the testing so far. Its impossible to make any judgement when the weights are not known. Most teams would be testing long runs and tyre wear against an ever decreasing fuel load and not low fuel runs. Yet if a team were in trouble with aero then youd want to do low fuel runs to get an optimal judgement.

yeh i want to see some quali runs.

[antoniob]

Ferrari in trouble ?? Maybe premature but looks like ...... NOT !!!!!

[Jabberwocky]

hard to dismiss the B spec rumour with the testing so far. Its impossible to make any judgement when the weights are not known. Most teams would be testing long runs and tyre wear against an ever decreasing fuel load and not low fuel runs. Yet if a team were in trouble with aero then youd want to do low fuel runs to get an optimal judgement.

On the James Allen website he states that the B spec car is due to a Toyota refuge engineer that had a revolutionary design for the rear diffuser that would have a massive performance increase, so the B spec is going to be built on that concept

[Jensonb]

It seems Ferrari & McLaren are the pacesetters and Sauber are showboating for sponsors.

[vaptin]

It's harder to believe the B-spec rumour in the first place then to dismiss it.

[scotty]

Any thoughts on the weight of the Ferrari engine? 12 to 15 kg heavier than the Renault, on average 5 kg heavier than the merc. Worst case scenarion(15kg heaver )is worth about 0.45s per lap, and all that penalty will now be carried at the beginning of the race. Is ferrari going to suffer at the starts?

Yep, same for Sauber and co too. However, that deficit will obviously decrease throughout the race as the fuel is consumed - but in my estimation the damage will already have been done, especially at places like Monaco. On the other hand, they qualify on low fuel...

Apparently the Cossie is even worse for fuel consumption though. But... it's supposed to be the most powerful engine, so the extra weight is to an extent negated by the extra power, but only at the odd track.

It seems Ferrari & McLaren are the pacesetters and Sauber are showboating for sponsors.

I can see the logic behind that assumption, but am not sure that it's truly the case...

[Jensonb]

It seems Ferrari & McLaren are the pacesetters and Sauber are showboating for sponsors.

I can see the logic behind that assumption, but am not sure that it's truly the case...

It's not really an assumption, I'm just relaying the meaning of the rumours going around re: fuel loads. The accuracy of the rumours remains to be seen. It certainly seems plausible.

[headless]

I'll sponso Sauber

[texasmr2]

According to the latest times I see nothing to worry about but the first race will determine if they are fact or fiction.

[antoniob]

According to the latest times I see nothing to worry about but the first race will determine if they are fact or fiction.

I'll drink to that you having one as well tex ?

[Gaz]

According to the latest times I see nothing to worry about but the first race will determine if they are fact or fiction.

I'll drink to that you having one as well tex ?

I take it your both Drinking to them being Fiction then ?