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certom wrote:oh merda, allora:1. dont tell me what I can or cant do, Im not your lacky
1- don't answer me with an another question
2- the FIA ESCUSED WITH FERRARI for hadn't provided that document, each decision has to be signed by each team, Ferrari did not had that document and they didn't signed it..otherwise they would have done it!! and they would have respected it!
now answer if you can please...
certom wrote: 1- the decision of the FIA of starting with heavy rains, as every decision made by the FIA must be undersigned by each team, and Ferrari didn't. We will understand(or maybe not) what happened in the next hours, but that's a sad point for the FIA.I didn't realise they had to sign something. I have to admit my first thoughts were - oh, Ferrari stretching the rules to their limits again
certom wrote: 2- why that penalty to kubica for colliding with LH? this is the game, this is motorsports, he didn't done it intentionally, but most of all, LH was still in race after it although he lost a position. so why ralf hasn't been punished for the collision with Yamamoto with a 10 position shift? maybe becuase none of them is a 20 year old leader of the championship..I was puzzled by this one - OK they collided, but I didn't see the need for a penalty?
stonemonkey wrote:but I find it quite sad to see such bitterness around the forum after such an entertaining and eventful race showing for the most a lot of extreme driving skill from all the drivers.I agree Monkey.
2- the FIA ESCUSED WITH FERRARI for hadn't provided that document, each decision has to be signed by each team, Ferrari did not had that document and they didn't signed it..otherwise they would have done it!! and they would have respected it!The teams were emailed with instructions about the tyres and Ferrari claim they didn't recieve the email until after the race start. I seriously doubt that whoever sent the emails suddenly realised a couple of laps into the race he'd forgotten about Ferrari and then sent it to them.
certom wrote:i would discuss two things:I don't believe that Italian trash. Every other team knew, every other driver knew, all of the press knew. The truth is Ferrari have manipulated the computers to make it seem they did not know about intermediate, or wet - not super-wet - tyres being banned for the start. Ferrari are hardly the face of honesty and, furthermore, they've been given enough over the past few years, don't you think.
1- the decision of the FIA of starting with heavy rains, as every decision made by the FIA must be undersigned by each team, and Ferrari didn't. We will understand(or maybe not) what happened in the next hours, but that's a sad point for the FIA.

McLaren Fan wrote:The truth is Ferrari have manipulated the computers to make it seem they did not know about intermediate, or wet - not super-wet - tyres being banned for the start.Honestly, it is *really* not feasible for them to tamper with the computers like this. Their only defence can be that Domencali either didn't download the emails from the server in time, or he didn't read hi mails prior to the race. I personally feel that Ferrari tried to bend the rules and it didn't work, and now they have come up with some lame excuse that holds no water.
McLaren Fan wrote: They make mistakes with Massa's pitstops. Massa overtakes under the safety car, and then tries to do his drive-through penalty under the safety car. When Massa was ahead of Raikkonen and they brought Massa in, I thought it was a tactical move to let Raikkonen ahead, but when I saw the fuel gone in, I thought what a bunch of arses. How they must be missing Schumacher and Ross Brawn.I wondered if they had stuffed up the fuel calcuations as the Massa pit-stop tactics were mighty odd. I feel a little sorry for Raikkonen and Massa as both had a chance of better finishes today, but it seems team tactics scuppered them both.
Selcouth_Feline wrote: I wondered if they had stuffed up the fuel calcuations as the Massa pit-stop tactics were mighty odd. I feel a little sorry for Raikkonen and Massa as both had a chance of better finishes today, but it seems team tactics scuppered them both.


certom wrote:i would discuss two things:Bob Varsha stated that when it's an issue of safety the FIA can make or change rule's without any approval from the team's. I have to admit that I believe my beloved Ferrari just outright "dropped the ball" with their choice of starting tire's. It was said that the rain had started early and just got heavier and heavier as the morning progressed so I am baffled by their decision.
1- the decision of the FIA of starting with heavy rains, as every decision made by the FIA must be undersigned by each team, and Ferrari didn't. We will understand(or maybe not) what happened in the next hours, but that's a sad point for the FIA.
McLaren Fan wrote: I don't believe that Italian trash. Every other team knew, every other driver knew, all of the press knew. The truth is Ferrari have manipulated the computers to make it seem they did not know about intermediate, or wet - not super-wet - tyres being banned for the start. Ferrari are hardly the face of honesty and, furthermore, they've been given enough over the past few years, don't you think.Wait for it McLaren Fan, the next thing we'll get will be Ferrari accusing McLaren of hacking into their email account.Besides, the dopes made the wrong choice of tyres anyway.
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