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[Denthúl]

Nick's facial hair > you.

[Hanwombat]

Facial hair is not a good look!! Does not make you look serious, just geeky and unattractive! Lose the facial hair Felippe!! You look cute as you were!!

Tell that to NICK!

Geeky and weedy

Where's that clip of Alex Wurz telling Ted Kravitz that Heidfeld should have a shave when you need it?

Nick sure can dance though

I was wondering how long it would be before you brought that up?

Haha I would so go dancing with Nick

[Rivelution]

Facial hair is not a good look!! Does not make you look serious, just geeky and unattractive! Lose the facial hair Felippe!! You look cute as you were!!

Facial hair makes you look like a badass!! Well, if you got the face for it.

[texasmr2]

Admittingly Felipe is a good o' laugh in the wet conditions

Sometime's even multiple WDC's, better than Hamilton , have gotten their setup and tire choice wrong and I think your statement lies strictly on the '08 Silverstone event. Very easy for you to lay blame etc etc yet God forbid if the situation was reversed .

Ah well I still laughed and yet I do admire Massa

I have to admit that by spin #4 laughing was all I could do.

I would of looked and Rubens and seen that he was about 7 or 8 seconds a lap quciker, and noticed that within a few laps you'd make up for the pit stop and more. Also, Massa had nothing to lose, its not like he just needed to finish the race or that he was making up ground. They should've taken the gamble, rather than just finishing in last. So yes, changing to full wets was the most logical decision. I would of understood if he was in 6th or 7th posistion, but not when was being overlapped.

Yes I agree with you that they should have taken the risk.

[bud]

Sometime's even multiple WDC's, better than Hamilton , have gotten their setup and tire choice wrong and I think your statement lies strictly on the '08 Silverstone event. Very easy for you to lay blame etc etc yet God forbid if the situation was reversed .

they all had a dry setup up during the race as Q was dry. so thats no excuse for him spinning that many times.

Whats clear about Massa is he is fast when the car is fast and the conditions are all hunky dory. His problem seems to be once something goes out of whack he cant drive around it.

[EwanM]

Sometime's even multiple WDC's, better than Hamilton , have gotten their setup and tire choice wrong and I think your statement lies strictly on the '08 Silverstone event. Very easy for you to lay blame etc etc yet God forbid if the situation was reversed .

they all had a dry setup up during the race as Q was dry. so thats no excuse for him spinning that many times.

Whats clear about Massa is he is fast when the car is fast and the conditions are all hunky dory. His problem seems to be once something goes out of whack he cant drive around it.

Very true.

[f1ea]

Whats clear about Massa is he is fast when the car is fast and the conditions are all hunky dory. His problem seems to be once something goes out of whack he cant drive around it.

How about driving around the F2008's difficult handling and set-up all season long?
I'm sure everyone can agree that the F2008 was a pita, and Massa managed it for the whole season. Yes, except in a few instances when aparently it was too much to drive around (such as Silverstone)... which was embarrassing. And other times where he or the team simply made mistakes. Regardless, i do believe Mclaren and Lewis were ussually making better choices, and as a team made far fewer mistakes, despite the MP never being particularly 'dominant'....

[racechick]

Whats clear about Massa is he is fast when the car is fast and the conditions are all hunky dory. His problem seems to be once something goes out of whack he cant drive around it.

How about driving around the F2008's difficult handling and set-up all season long?
I'm sure everyone can agree that the F2008 was a pita, and Massa managed it for the whole season. Yes, except in a few instances when aparently it was too much to drive around (such as Silverstone)... which was embarrassing. And other times where he or the team simply made mistakes. Regardless, i do believe Mclaren and Lewis were ussually making better choices, and as a team made far fewer mistakes, despite the MP never being particularly 'dominant'....

I wouldnt say the Ferrari was particularly ill handling!

[f1ea]

I wouldnt say the Ferrari was particularly ill handling!

It was in the hands of Kimi!
anyway... while it probably wasnt ill handling, it was definitely harder to drive under certain conditions/temperature.

[bud]

Whats clear about Massa is he is fast when the car is fast and the conditions are all hunky dory. His problem seems to be once something goes out of whack he cant drive around it.

How about driving around the F2008's difficult handling and set-up all season long?
I'm sure everyone can agree that the F2008 was a pita, and Massa managed it for the whole season. Yes, except in a few instances when aparently it was too much to drive around (such as Silverstone)... which was embarrassing. And other times where he or the team simply made mistakes. Regardless, i do believe Mclaren and Lewis were ussually making better choices, and as a team made far fewer mistakes, despite the MP never being particularly 'dominant'....

thats a fair take but i believe the direction the F2008 went technically just favoured his natural abilities while Kimi's it clearly did not.

[cap-dude]

True, the F2008 deffinetly swayed towards Massa's driving style. However, thats partly Kimi's own fault. Massa just seemed to have done a better job in terms of developing the car and finding a good set-up. Its been admitted that Kimi tends to be lazy, and that still seems to be the case at times. But I wouldn't say it was ill handling.

I admit as well, Massa does seem to struggle when theres a probelm. Mainly, he seems to struggle at China, Silverstone, and Fuji. Tracks with long sweeping corners. Still, you never hear compliants such as, somethings not working on the car. When he fell down the feild at Fuji, he fought his heart out. Unlike both Kimi and Lewis, who seemed to drop of during Fuji. Even Piquet caught up to KImi

[McLaren Fan]

Raikkonen is lazy in testing. Even when he does manage to show up, he just shrugs his shoulders and screws up his face. Engineers used to working with Barrichello and Schumacher over the years must have been disgusted to have to work with such a lazy twat. Raikkonen has the skill, but you need more than that to succeed. You need to show some determination and effort as well.

[bud]

True, the F2008 deffinetly swayed towards Massa's driving style. However, thats partly Kimi's own fault. Massa just seemed to have done a better job in terms of developing the car and finding a good set-up. Its been admitted that Kimi tends to be lazy, and that still seems to be the case at times. But I wouldn't say it was ill handling.

I admit as well, Massa does seem to struggle when theres a probelm. Mainly, he seems to struggle at China, Silverstone, and Fuji. Tracks with long sweeping corners. Still, you never hear compliants such as, somethings not working on the car. When he fell down the feild at Fuji, he fought his heart out. Unlike both Kimi and Lewis, who seemed to drop of during Fuji. Even Piquet caught up to KImi

At Fuji he fought his brain out more like it! With that move punting Lewis off

[scotty]

When he fell down the feild at Fuji, he fought his heart out. Unlike both Kimi and Lewis, who seemed to drop of during Fuji. Even Piquet caught up to KImi

I take it you missed the entire section of the race at Fuji with Kubica and Raikkonen racing closely then... Raikkonen shafted his tyres trying to get past Kubica and slowed when they started graining, meanwhile Massa seemed intent on trying to cause accidents whenever he tried to pass someone (Hamilton, Bourdais, Webber)...

Whats clear about Massa is he is fast when the car is fast and the conditions are all hunky dory. His problem seems to be once something goes out of whack he cant drive around it.

Hmm, kinda reminiscent of a certain Ralf Schumacher in that respect then!

[Denthúl]

Sometime's even multiple WDC's, better than Hamilton , have gotten their setup and tire choice wrong and I think your statement lies strictly on the '08 Silverstone event. Very easy for you to lay blame etc etc yet God forbid if the situation was reversed .

Whats clear about Massa is he is fast when the car is fast and the conditions are all hunky dory. His problem seems to be once something goes out of whack he cant drive around it.

It wasn't exactly hunky-dory at Interlagos or at Monaco