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#95774
good work FOTA.

hope the FIA backs down.


Sounds to me as if its not a case of FIA backing down because it wasn't legal in the first place :D . Put that in your pipe and smoke it BE. :hehe:


I think Bernie might be having a stroke right now
#95777
Not sure if this has already been said. Says breaking news on BBC website. Hopefully for the good of the sport it works. Please FIA see sense.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7955790.stm

I must say though this sort of thing should have been decided a long time ago. Not a week before practice starts for the first Grand Prix of the season. Its exciting before the green lights have went on :hehe:
#95779
Not sure if this has already been said. Says breaking news on BBC website. Hopefully for the good of the sport it works. Please FIA see sense.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7955790.stm

I must say though this sort of thing should have been decided a long time ago. Not a week before practice starts for the first Grand Prix of the season. Its exciting before the green lights have went on :hehe:

It sounds similar to what FOTA have been saying previously, but given the BBC are making a big deal about it, I guess there have been some developments on the matter.
#95787
I knew it seemed like this was far too late for changes to made to the Points system.

This also explains why FOTA was relatively silent on the issue before.
#96144
New rules set for 2010 - F1 boss

Ecclestone wants the change so that "people race to win"
Formula 1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone says the new scoring system he is championing will definitely be introduced next year.

Plans to use the system, in which the driver with most wins becomes champion, from 2009 were scrapped on Friday.

But Ecclestone told the BBC that the system would be introduced in 2010.

"It will be supported by the FIA and it will be in the regulations, so when the people enter the championship, that's what the regulation will be," he said.

Asked if he was disappointed by the decision to ditch the system for this year, Ecclestone added on BBC Radio 5 Live's Sportsweek programme: "Absolutely. If you go to the athletics and look at the 100m you're not looking at the guy that's second, you're looking at the winner. Lewis (Hamilton) last year was second in a couple of races he could easily have won and he was quite right in being second

"To make any changes when the entries have closed, you have to get a unanimous agreement between all the people that have entered, and it would appear that some of the teams didn't like the idea.

"The whole idea is nothing to do with winning the world championship, the idea was to make sure people raced in every race to win, not to be second or third and collect points."

The new system means that a driver could wrap up the title well before the end of the year, but Ecclestone brushed off suggestions it could potentially kill off interest in the sport.

"That's too bad. Maybe they'd be watching the other races where the people are racing to win rather than be second," said Ecclestone.

And he referred to a couple of races from the 2008 championship as examples of how the present scoring system discouraged attacking driving.

"Lewis (Hamilton) last year was second in a couple of races he could easily have won, and he was quite right in being second," said Ecclestone.

"If I'd have been his team manager I'd have been complaining if he'd been racing to win, in case there was a problem in the car or he fell off the road."

Defending champion Hamilton has been off the pace in pre-season testing but Ecclestone said he "absolutely" believed Hamilton remained the man to beat, adding "certainly if we had that other scoring system he would be".


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 957788.stm
#96147
I knew it seemed like this was far too late for changes to made to the Points system.

This also explains why FOTA was relatively silent on the issue before.

I like it, FOTA let Max and Bernie make asses of themselves but Bernie has said winner-take-all will be here in 2010.
#96353
Briatore pleased FOTA was heeded

By Michele Lostia and Matt Beer Sunday, March 22nd 2009, 11:12 GMT


Renault team boss Flavio Briatore says that the likely postponement of the new championship system proves the value of the Formula 1 teams' current unity.

The FIA is set to defer its plan to award the championship to the driver with most wins after the Formula One Teams' Association questioned the validity of the move, pointing out that the F1 regulations only allow such changes so close to the start of the season if all the teams are in agreement.

FIA president Max Mosley subsequently said the governing body had been told the teams were in favour of the plan.

Briatore said that Bernie Ecclestone had not discussed the 'winners takes all' plan, but was please that the FIA had heeded the teams' concerns.

"What has happened demonstrated that if the teams are together, their voice can count," he was quoted as saying by Gazzetta dello Sport.

"It's not true that the teams had been informed, and in any case with Ecclestone we talked about medals, but we never talked about the criteria approved by the world council."

He added that the teams simply thought the new system was unnecessary, rather than being vehemently against it.

"Why are we against it? Because we don't feel it's interesting, that's all," said Briatore.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73835


Domenicali: F1 points row embarrassing

By Michele Lostia and Pablo Elizalde Monday, March 23rd 2009, 11:55 GMT


Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali says the row over Formula 1's scoring system is embarrassing for the sport.

The FIA announced last week a new 'winner takes all' system, in which the driver with the most wins would be champion, even ahead of a driver with more points.

The governing body also rejected a system proposed by the Formula One Teams' Association that would have increased the points advantage between the winner and the second-placed driver.

But, after complaints from the teams and drivers, the governing body admitted it was ready to defer the introduction of the new system if the teams were unhappy about it, and it now seems likely that the one used last year will stay on for 2009.

Domenicali said the situation was not good for F1, and admitted going back to the usual points system was not ideal either.

"It seems embarrassing to me what has happened in the last few days," Domenicali told the Gazzetta dello Sport newspaper on Monday.

"We wanted a bigger difference between the winner and the others, instead it stays like 2008. Oh well."

The Ferrari boss also said he is expecting the governing body to clarify the regulations regarding the rear diffusers, as F1 could be heading for another row at the Australian GP this weekend.

FIA president Max Mosley admitted a protest could not be ruled out after Sunday's race due to the diffusers used by Williams, Toyota and Brawn GP.

Domenicali is hoping the issue is resolved before there are protests launched.

"We are convinced that certain interpretations that have been applied do not correspond to the nature of the rules," he added.

"We expect the federation to clarify as soon as possible its position over the diffuser. If that extractor is illegal then it must not be used, while if it is legal it's up to the other teams, including us, to try to adapt as soon as possible, because performance is found in that area of the car.

"There needs to be a great sense of responsibility on everyone's part. I hope this issue can be resolved beforehand."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73853
#96405
Briatore pleased FOTA was heeded

By Michele Lostia and Matt Beer Sunday, March 22nd 2009, 11:12 GMT


Renault team boss Flavio Briatore says that the likely postponement of the new championship system proves the value of the Formula 1 teams' current unity.

The FIA is set to defer its plan to award the championship to the driver with most wins after the Formula One Teams' Association questioned the validity of the move, pointing out that the F1 regulations only allow such changes so close to the start of the season if all the teams are in agreement.

FIA president Max Mosley subsequently said the governing body had been told the teams were in favour of the plan.

Briatore said that Bernie Ecclestone had not discussed the 'winners takes all' plan, but was please that the FIA had heeded the teams' concerns.

"What has happened demonstrated that if the teams are together, their voice can count," he was quoted as saying by Gazzetta dello Sport.

"It's not true that the teams had been informed, and in any case with Ecclestone we talked about medals, but we never talked about the criteria approved by the world council."

He added that the teams simply thought the new system was unnecessary, rather than being vehemently against it.

"Why are we against it? Because we don't feel it's interesting, that's all," said Briatore.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73835


Domenicali: F1 points row embarrassing

By Michele Lostia and Pablo Elizalde Monday, March 23rd 2009, 11:55 GMT


Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali says the row over Formula 1's scoring system is embarrassing for the sport.

The FIA announced last week a new 'winner takes all' system, in which the driver with the most wins would be champion, even ahead of a driver with more points.

The governing body also rejected a system proposed by the Formula One Teams' Association that would have increased the points advantage between the winner and the second-placed driver.

But, after complaints from the teams and drivers, the governing body admitted it was ready to defer the introduction of the new system if the teams were unhappy about it, and it now seems likely that the one used last year will stay on for 2009.

Domenicali said the situation was not good for F1, and admitted going back to the usual points system was not ideal either.

"It seems embarrassing to me what has happened in the last few days," Domenicali told the Gazzetta dello Sport newspaper on Monday.

"We wanted a bigger difference between the winner and the others, instead it stays like 2008. Oh well."

The Ferrari boss also said he is expecting the governing body to clarify the regulations regarding the rear diffusers, as F1 could be heading for another row at the Australian GP this weekend.

FIA president Max Mosley admitted a protest could not be ruled out after Sunday's race due to the diffusers used by Williams, Toyota and Brawn GP.

Domenicali is hoping the issue is resolved before there are protests launched.

"We are convinced that certain interpretations that have been applied do not correspond to the nature of the rules," he added.

"We expect the federation to clarify as soon as possible its position over the diffuser. If that extractor is illegal then it must not be used, while if it is legal it's up to the other teams, including us, to try to adapt as soon as possible, because performance is found in that area of the car.

"There needs to be a great sense of responsibility on everyone's part. I hope this issue can be resolved beforehand."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73853

For once Flavio has said the right things and isn't moaning about the diffuser issue. But I don't think it'll stay like that come Friday...
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