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KERS will be safe, says FIA's Whiting

By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, January 27th 2009, 16:35 GMT


The FIA is confident that measures it has implemented with the teams will ensure that the new-for-2009 Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems (KERS) will be safe for use at races.

The introduction of KERS in Formula One this season has prompted widespread safety fears, especially after a BMW Sauber mechanic suffered an electric shock during testing at Jerez in Spain last year.

But FIA race director Charlie Whiting believes that work done by the governing body, as well as efforts by teams, should minimise the risk of dangers to drivers, team personnel and track safety workers.

"Through the Technical Working Group, we set up a KERS Safety Working Group chaired by BMW," said Whiting on Tuesday.

"They've met quite a few times and they've come up with a long list of suggestions, parts of which have already become regulations, and some of which will form the basis of a comprehensive document we'll circulate to all circuits and tracks hosting a Grand Prix.

"The teams are taking this very responsibly for their own safety, of course. They're also looking at how the marshals will respond to broken-down cars. There will be things like the KERS status warning light that will be on all cars. Marshals are going to be educated by the documentation we'll provide.

"Also, the systems themselves should be safe. If there's a risk, it should be clear to a marshal who walks up to the car. He should approach the vehicle, look at the KERS status light and, if it is in the wrong state, he shouldn't touch the car.

"Also, people working on the track are being briefed about how to pick up parts, which will be clearly identified by colour coding. If they potentially contain high voltage, they have to know how to move them. They will also wear gloves, which are good for a thousand volts."

Whiting said that teams were working together to help improve knowledge of the safety aspects of the new electronic systems.

As well as being safe, Whiting thinks that KERS will help improve the show and provide off-track benefits to the car manufacturers involved in the sport. However, he was not convinced yet about the positives of having such a variety of KERS technology being developed by the teams.

When asked if it was right for F1 to have so many dissimilar ideas for the new technology, Whiting said: "Difficult to say. Presumably the teams involved have done things for their own good reasons.

"Obviously, the best solution will emerge, eventually. This is what always happens when we have something new. All the teams have significant simulation tools at their disposal. They've used these the best way they can to find and arrive at the best technology. There's no clear leader as we speak but one will emerge, I'm sure.

"Also, I think KERS will add significant interest to Formula One. It's going to be very interesting to see how the drivers deploy it, because the rules state that the release of the power has to be under the complete control of the driver - that's the important part."

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#89117
Don't think KERS is that stupid... its maybe not the best idea ever, but as it is being introduced now it has be thought about as only the beggining. So all the irks and issues we are seeing now are things to be trimmed and improved for the future. The biggest challenge of KERS i'd say is reducing the weight/size of the battery and from an environmental pt of view, its life. The rest is something drivers and engineers can find their way around.

I wouldn't expect much from F1-KERS to be used in road cars anyway, as with almost everything in F1... but at least KERS could be useful to divert our attention from fossil fuels and maybe setting a trend...
#89126
It will be interesting to see what impact KERS will have on the rest of the world of motorsport.
Costs need to be cut... personally I'd have delayed KERS, simply until this economic storm began to end. Look towards the likes of GP2, they've started following F1 with cost cuts, but they have no long term plan to introduce KERS ever.
#89127
well people bagging KERS seem to forget the technology is already being massed produced and sold in the auto market already. Hybrid cars like the Prius use kenetic energy recovery as part of their power supply.
Great thing is i test drove a Toyota Prius on Australia Day monday, a mate works for Toyota and was using it this weekend to get around. Anyways hearing the KERS at work when braking or driving under EV mode made it a weird driving experience. When you consider i have a 6 Lt V8 and have previously driven Turbo 4's n 6's.
the great thing about the Prius was my mate had a fuel consumption of 5lt/500km thats 1/100 which is crazy when you consider my Holden gets 15/100 on a good day!
SO KERS is important in developing even greater systems as the FIA have given free reign in this area for the F1 engineers to go crazy with and surely will be seen on a car near you in the next decade!
#89128
well people bagging KERS seem to forget the technology is already being massed produced and sold in the auto market already. Hybrid cars like the Prius use kenetic energy recovery as part of their power supply.
Great thing is i test drove a Toyota Prius on Australia Day monday, a mate works for Toyota and was using it this weekend to get around. Anyways hearing the KERS at work when braking or driving under EV mode made it a weird driving experience. When you consider i have a 6 Lt V8 and have previously driven Turbo 4's n 6's.
the great thing about the Prius was my mate had a fuel consumption of 5lt/500km thats 1/100 which is crazy when you consider my Holden gets 15/100 on a good day!
SO KERS is important in developing even greater systems as the FIA have given free reign in this area for the F1 engineers to go crazy with and surely will be seen on a car near you in the next decade!


What about Hydrogen powered cars. Such as the FCX Clarity
#89129
well people bagging KERS seem to forget the technology is already being massed produced and sold in the auto market already. Hybrid cars like the Prius use kenetic energy recovery as part of their power supply.
Great thing is i test drove a Toyota Prius on Australia Day monday, a mate works for Toyota and was using it this weekend to get around. Anyways hearing the KERS at work when braking or driving under EV mode made it a weird driving experience. When you consider i have a 6 Lt V8 and have previously driven Turbo 4's n 6's.
the great thing about the Prius was my mate had a fuel consumption of 5lt/500km thats 1/100 which is crazy when you consider my Holden gets 15/100 on a good day!
SO KERS is important in developing even greater systems as the FIA have given free reign in this area for the F1 engineers to go crazy with and surely will be seen on a car near you in the next decade!


What about Hydrogen powered cars. Such as the FCX Clarity

mate we have water restrictions as it is in Australia i cant see it being put to mass production unless they use desalinated water and not fresh water!
with KERS i see it eventually being able to support the electric engine on the car on its own without the need for a petrol engine or plug in electric to charge its battery. and i see the development of the great minds of F1 playing a large roll in moving this technology forward and quickly!
#89140
That's also why I'm baffled that Toyota of all teams struggles with KERS. WTF? They got the hot-selling Prius and can't come up with a KERS for their dinky F1 car??? :director:
#89141
That's also why I'm baffled that Toyota of all teams struggles with KERS. WTF? They got the hot-selling Prius and can't come up with a KERS for their dinky F1 car??? :director:


maybe they are playing their cards right?
#89144
I have just read Whiting's comments on KERS on Grandprix.com & the whole idea just gets sillier by the minute.

Especially the safety aspect.
#89171
Cue the Top Gear presenters trying to make a fully working and reliable KERS device in a "how hard can it be?" challenge? The secret to a good KERS device may lie in just a couple of bangs from Clarkson's Hammer.

At this rate though the Life W12 engine is going to sound more a saner idea than KERS.

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