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#82176
Ditch the current system and also forget this new stupid idea, (Although 1 point for pole sounds like a not bad idea). This new idea sounds like something from the Test Drive and Need 4 Speed games. There were options and race types in some of those games were you would race and every lap the car in last would drop out until you got to the last lap and only 2 cars were left. I like the old days of qualifying. Different tyres, whatever fuel load you wanted, fastest times on either the Friday or Saturday would count etc. This is normal racing, this is the way it should go bacl to. And I don't consider it Ferrari's fault because they were always winning for this to of changed. Number 1 no one should be penalised for being the best and 2 in the late 80s early 90s, McLaren were winning mostly and no one complained. Then it was mostly Williams and again no one complained. These days it is all nonense.

It's not so much about who it is, it's more to do with many people feeling the sport was less exciting that it was fifteen or twenty years ago in terms of on-track action, breathtaking tracks etc.
#82181
It's not so much about who it is, it's more to do with many people feeling the sport was less exciting that it was fifteen or twenty years ago in terms of on-track action, breathtaking tracks etc.


Its silly. There was a time early this decade where admittedly - tho wonderful - lacked a bit of excitement. These last 3 seasons have been plenty excitement in terms of competiveness. They'll keep messing with formulas but at the end of the day how will changing qualifying improve racing. If quali is boring tough sh*t, its simply a tool to decide the grid in a practical and fair way. Instead of tinkering they should just leave it. Its fine, the knock-out system creates enough excitement in my view. If they keep revamping it shows that FIA aren't making the right decisions which means the are actually incompetent!
#82290
1 point for pole would suck in F1 with varying race fuel loads.

Scenario as it is now
as say Massa knows he does not have the pace for a win, He knows he can probably qualify 3rd or at best 2nd. so the best that could come out of this would mean his main opponent Hamilton gets 10 points from the weekend while he gets 8.

Scenario with point for pole
yet with the 1 point for pole Massa could knowingly hinder his first stint by going alot shorter than Lewis knowing Lewis will overtake him during the pit stops. He gets pole and the 1 point./
Massa still finsihes 2nd in this scenario but comes out of the weekend with a 10 - 9 thats 1 point gap instead of 2


this takes away more power of a win :thumbdown:


THey usually change the way that works to provide a larger gap between the final score points. Like 15, 10, 8... or 12, 9, 7...

But the stupid proposition in the OP makes no sense.
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#82299
Hmmm this new qualifying mode could be interesting.

As long as everyone has equal fuel loads in Q (which makes the 1pt for pole meaningful), then allow teams to strategize freely for the race.

Dont like that medal crap idea though...
#82320
Hmmm this new qualifying mode could be interesting.

As long as everyone has equal fuel loads in Q (which makes the 1pt for pole meaningful), then allow teams to strategize freely for the race.

Dont like that medal crap idea though...

I'm kinda liking that idea also but whatever they decide on it better not be that 'meddle crappola' :nono: .
#82322
i think they should pick a specific method for quali then stick with it for at least 2 seasons then have a review of how its working. i also feel the teams as well as their drivers should be involved in the review as they have a better insight than the fia or who-ever.
it really irks me that almost every year there's a new quali format and usually its a turn for the worse. but i do agree with 2eyebrows about the 12 lap quali days... lent itself to a lot of drama.
#82324
i think they should pick a specific method for quali then stick with it for at least 2 seasons then have a review of how its working. i also feel the teams as well as their drivers should be involved in the review as they have a better insight than the fia or who-ever.
it really irks me that almost every year there's a new quali format and usually its a turn for the worse. but i do agree with 2eyebrows about the 12 lap quali days... lent itself to a lot of drama.


Exactly. Make a decision and live with it. I do think the points should be earned on race day, with maybe one for fastest lap, at least kimi would get a few more ...
#82325
i think they should pick a specific method for quali then stick with it for at least 2 seasons then have a review of how its working. i also feel the teams as well as their drivers should be involved in the review as they have a better insight than the fia or who-ever.
it really irks me that almost every year there's a new quali format and usually its a turn for the worse. but i do agree with 2eyebrows about the 12 lap quali days... lent itself to a lot of drama.

Yah I wish for a return to some of the other format's from the '80's and early '90's and who know's, just like fashion, everything makes a comeback sooner or later. :thumbup:
#82327
i think they should pick a specific method for quali then stick with it for at least 2 seasons then have a review of how its working. i also feel the teams as well as their drivers should be involved in the review as they have a better insight than the fia or who-ever.
it really irks me that almost every year there's a new quali format and usually its a turn for the worse. but i do agree with 2eyebrows about the 12 lap quali days... lent itself to a lot of drama.

Yah I wish for a return to some of the other format's from the '80's and early '90's and who know's, just like fashion, everything makes a comeback sooner or later. :thumbup:


purple blazers with shoulder pads finished off with a pink and brown polka dot tie and white loafers come to mind... some things are best left in the past :wink:
although bernie's managed to keep his hair style for the last 150 years :hehe:
#82328
i think they should pick a specific method for quali then stick with it for at least 2 seasons then have a review of how its working. i also feel the teams as well as their drivers should be involved in the review as they have a better insight than the fia or who-ever.
it really irks me that almost every year there's a new quali format and usually its a turn for the worse. but i do agree with 2eyebrows about the 12 lap quali days... lent itself to a lot of drama.

Yah I wish for a return to some of the other format's from the '80's and early '90's and who know's, just like fashion, everything makes a comeback sooner or later. :thumbup:


purple blazers with shoulder pads finished off with a pink and brown polka dot tie and white loafers come to mind... some things are best left in the past :wink:
although bernie's managed to keep his hair style for the last 150 years :hehe:

If one did not live in those time's or was not old enough to experience them first hand I dont expect them to realize anything else other than the fashion, which was hip for the times by the way :wink: . Anyway back to the topic what I meant was I enjoyed the quali format's back then alot more than I enjoy the current ones in place.
#82333
i totally agree with you, i would like to see a lot of the old school 'quirks' of f1, and i do feel the quali format is the major weak point of the modern f1 regs.
another thing that i feel detracts from what should essentially be racing is the tyre rule. i do not understand why teams had (falls away with slicks as far as i understand) to use the option and the prime tyre... maked no sense and was there just for the sake of it.
and what of the safety car? restricting pit lane entry is just daft and unfair.
i do have many more rants but seeing as texas wants to keep it on topic i'll refrain :)
#82334
As far as i know, there'll still be forced use of both option and prime for the slick tyres. But I fully agree its a pointless rule, it hasnt
added any excitement for me.
#82335
I do have many more rants but seeing as texas wants to keep it on topic i'll refrain :)

Thank you, nice to see some common sense and maturity for a change! :wink:
#82344
Well my opinion is that they should leave things as they are now, only award 1 WDC point for the guy who gets pole. I guess things are interesting enough so far.
Under these rules it could happen that somebody will be stuck in traffic, and lose around 2 secs per lap - which automatically means that he's out...

Sincerely I'm fed up with all these stupid changes they are trying to make. This is going to ruin the sport for sure.
#82765
I like the current quali format - very exciting.
No comparison to that 1-driver-for-1-lap borefest we had before - see, it could be worse?!?

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