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By racechick
#82147
If I were in charge at Honda my driver line up would be
Bruno Senna and Rubens Barichello
Reasons………….
Lets start with Bruno.
Honda need a young hot shot for the future. They probably need to aim for 2 or 3years in the future and want a young guy to groom for then. Senna has proved himself both in previous categories (he could have won GP2 but for dogs and pit lane penalties) and he’s done well in the recent Honda test. Also his name is a marketing bonus!
Now Barichelo:-
When everything is right Jenson can drive supremely, but if something is out of kilter-tyres, track, weather, set up then he struggles. Rubens is better able to drive round problems or think his way out of them. He has proved this by his better showing this year than Jenson. His experience and ability in this area will be invaluable next year with the new technology.
Also, Jenson is still hungry for success though he is getting too long in the tooth, he will not be keen to have a potential young hot shot beside him. Rubens however has 1 maybe 2 years left in F1 and knows that realistically he is not up for world champion. He would be keen to play the team game and help develop the team and a young driver. The fact that it is Senna is kind of special since the great Ayrton mentored Rubens when he was the young newcomer. Rubens would be happy to repay the service to the nephew.
So Honda, there you have it…best option for you next year.

Ok now you can shoot me down!
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By 7UpJordan
#82151
If I were in charge at Honda my driver line up would be
Bruno Senna and Rubens Barichello
Reasons………….
Lets start with Bruno.
Honda need a young hot shot for the future. They probably need to aim for 2 or 3years in the future and want a young guy to groom for then. Senna has proved himself both in previous categories (he could have won GP2 but for dogs and pit lane penalties) and he’s done well in the recent Honda test. Also his name is a marketing bonus!
Now Barichelo:-
When everything is right Jenson can drive supremely, but if something is out of kilter-tyres, track, weather, set up then he struggles. Rubens is better able to drive round problems or think his way out of them. He has proved this by his better showing this year than Jenson. His experience and ability in this area will be invaluable next year with the new technology.
Also, Jenson is still hungry for success though he is getting too long in the tooth, he will not be keen to have a potential young hot shot beside him. Rubens however has 1 maybe 2 years left in F1 and knows that realistically he is not up for world champion. He would be keen to play the team game and help develop the team and a young driver. The fact that it is Senna is kind of special since the great Ayrton mentored Rubens when he was the young newcomer. Rubens would be happy to repay the service to the nephew.
So Honda, there you have it…best option for you next year.

Ok now you can shoot me down!

Absolutely agree with everything you said 100%. :yes::clap:

Bruno would benefit better with Barrichello as his team-mate than Button, and when the time comes for Barrichello to retire, Bruno will be able to use all the advice and experience he will have gained.
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By madbrad
#82153
Seems to me right foot brakers take longer to get around the track.

Hmm 2 brazillians on a team? Has that happened before?
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By 7UpJordan
#82155
Seems to me right foot brakers take longer to get around the track.

Hmm 2 brazillians on a team? Has that happened before?

Roberto Moreno and Nelson Piquet at Benetton from 1990 Suzuka onwards until Schumacher came along comes into my mind first.
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By Denthúl
#82156
Seems to me right foot brakers take longer to get around the track.

Hmm 2 brazillians on a team? Has that happened before?


Surely that'd make Jenson poo, then, seeing as Rubens has been faster around practically every track this year? :hehe:

Can he still be braking with his right-foot? I wouldn't have thought there'd be that much room down with the pedals.


And racechick, I agree that it'd be a nice line-up :)

...of course, not likely to happen whilst Nick Fry is in charge. :hitler:
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By McLaren Fan
#82158
To be honest, I take a different view on this. Button has been bested this year, but he is a solid driver when he is motivated. He is worth keeping on board. Senna, however, whilst he clearly has skill (as evidenced by how quickly he has climbed up all of the formulae despite his family not allowing him to compete for so long), I'm still not certain he's ready to move in Formula One just yet. Barrichello should be given another year's contract and Senna should hone his skills in the meantime.
Last edited by McLaren Fan on 23 Nov 08, 23:13, edited 1 time in total.
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By madbrad
#82161
Senna could have a testing role for a year in a better car than a Honda. Then when he gets a drive he'll be old hat. OTOH if you get spoiled in a great car then race in a poo car that might be bad. Maybe it's better to be a tester in a poo car. That way if you know how to get on with a poo car you'd be great in a great car.
By EPE
#82162
kinda agree with maclaren fan.

whilst senna is obv gonna to be a good driver in the future i think honda would still be better off with rubens jensen line up. button is mr incosistant to be honest but im hoping with the new car and major improvments that come with next year that he can be more competative. rubens is a good experienced driver who is ONLY in a position now to support his team tbh and dont forget if he dosnt retire this year it realy wont be long until he takes the plunge, and at that point honda will be in need for a new driver so what would be the point in dropping button who has a good few years yet to (being optomistic ) blossom ? cant imagen it but taking senna over button just is not an option for honda i would have thought. if they do take senna then it will be for rubbens.
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By racechick
#82163
But Honda arent ready to be at the top yet. They could save a packet on Buttons salary and groom Senna under the excellent guidance of Rubens for future glory. Tough on Button.. but its a tough old world.
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By KyrosV
#82178
Ok Im going to defend JB....

Ok Ok Rubiniho has had a better season this year but, Jenson has wiped the floor off of him the previous Seasons, are you guys all in the same boat as james Allan? forgetting Jensons famous victory for the team? You all say Hiedfelt and Kimi had bad seasons but are expected to bounce back in 2009, so why not Jenson? I think for the long term, Button has the better potential to take the team further in the future. My best bet for Rubens is to book up a test with STR.
By f1maniac95
#82231
I think Senna should maybe get a year in a testing role with the team and then at the end of next year give him a full race seat although I have a feeling that it will be Barrichello that he'll replace as he is nearing the end of his career I think.
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By racechick
#82236
I think Senna should maybe get a year in a testing role with the team and then at the end of next year give him a full race seat although I have a feeling that it will be Barrichello that he'll replace as he is nearing the end of his career I think.


I think you're right but I think its the wrong choice.
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By Denthúl
#82238
Ok Im going to defend JB....

Ok Ok Rubiniho has had a better season this year but, Jenson has wiped the floor off of him the previous Seasons, are you guys all in the same boat as james Allan? forgetting Jensons famous victory for the team? You all say Hiedfelt and Kimi had bad seasons but are expected to bounce back in 2009, so why not Jenson? I think for the long term, Button has the better potential to take the team further in the future. My best bet for Rubens is to book up a test with STR.


Actually, no he hasn't. :)

The only season Jenson has out-performed Rubens is 2006, where Rubens had to adjust to Michelin tyres (having spent the past few years on Bridgestones) and to a new team environment. However, he wasn't particularly far behind Jenson, given the circumstances. Then in 2007, Jenson outscored Rubens, which is pretty much all people see. They fail to see that Rubens did better than Jenson on eleven occasions, whilst Jenson did better on only five. And this year speaks for itself.

And there's more to it than just results. For the past two years, Jenson has taken every opportunity to rubbish the Honda car and moan about how the team need to do more, whilst not applying himself and committing fully to racing, instead competing in athletic events. Meanwhile, Rubens is as motivated as ever and has just got on with the job, and delivered some astounding results given the fact that the only car worse than the Honda this year has been the Force India.
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By racechick
#82244
Ok Im going to defend JB....

Ok Ok Rubiniho has had a better season this year but, Jenson has wiped the floor off of him the previous Seasons, are you guys all in the same boat as james Allan? forgetting Jensons famous victory for the team? You all say Hiedfelt and Kimi had bad seasons but are expected to bounce back in 2009, so why not Jenson? I think for the long term, Button has the better potential to take the team further in the future. My best bet for Rubens is to book up a test with STR.


Actually, no he hasn't. :)

The only season Jenson has out-performed Rubens is 2006, where Rubens had to adjust to Michelin tyres (having spent the past few years on Bridgestones) and to a new team environment. However, he wasn't particularly far behind Jenson, given the circumstances. Then in 2007, Jenson outscored Rubens, which is pretty much all people see. They fail to see that Rubens did better than Jenson on eleven occasions, whilst Jenson did better on only five. And this year speaks for itself.

And there's more to it than just results. For the past two years, Jenson has taken every opportunity to rubbish the Honda car and moan about how the team need to do more, whilst not applying himself and committing fully to racing, instead competing in athletic events. Meanwhile, Rubens is as motivated as ever and has just got on with the job, and delivered some astounding results given the fact that the only car worse than the Honda this year has been the Force India.

:yes::yes:
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By McLaren Fan
#82254
Ok Im going to defend JB....

Ok Ok Rubiniho has had a better season this year but, Jenson has wiped the floor off of him the previous Seasons, are you guys all in the same boat as james Allan? forgetting Jensons famous victory for the team? You all say Hiedfelt and Kimi had bad seasons but are expected to bounce back in 2009, so why not Jenson? I think for the long term, Button has the better potential to take the team further in the future. My best bet for Rubens is to book up a test with STR.


Actually, no he hasn't. :)

The only season Jenson has out-performed Rubens is 2006, where Rubens had to adjust to Michelin tyres (having spent the past few years on Bridgestones) and to a new team environment. However, he wasn't particularly far behind Jenson, given the circumstances. Then in 2007, Jenson outscored Rubens, which is pretty much all people see. They fail to see that Rubens did better than Jenson on eleven occasions, whilst Jenson did better on only five. And this year speaks for itself.

And there's more to it than just results. For the past two years, Jenson has taken every opportunity to rubbish the Honda car and moan about how the team need to do more, whilst not applying himself and committing fully to racing, instead competing in athletic events. Meanwhile, Rubens is as motivated as ever and has just got on with the job, and delivered some astounding results given the fact that the only car worse than the Honda this year has been the Force India.

Top post. I agree with every word. :)

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