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#75888
If Kimi does clash with Lewis, which I highly doubt he will, I hope he makes it look like a 'racing incident' :hehe: .


Schui will be training him now. :(

Funny how those two incident's are constantly brought up :rolleyes: and we all know Kimi is his own worst nightmare. :wink:
#75904
No I am sorry but Ferrari is the better constructor in 2008 and if they win it, they are the moral victors not McLaren. If you put aside the mistakes Ferrari has made, if they had not been made, Ferrari would be miles ahead by now in the constructors title. McLaren is only 11 points behind due to luck on Ferrari's mishaps. McLaren is inferior to Ferrari no arguement. Although I am prepared to concede that Lewis Hamilton is a good driver (I still hate the guy), he is the only reason why McLaren are in for a chance for the drivers. Well they very much have it in the bag unless he repeats what he did last season in Brazil. Heikki may be crap, but then of course he isn't because he drives for Mclaren and they wouldn't hire a crap driver. He is an average driver and basically Lewis Hamilton was able to push harder and get the results because he was better. Both Ferrari drivers are reasonably paced and both could deliver solid results. McLaren isn't the better constructor and it is as simple as that. Talk all the shiit you want, when and if Ferrari win the constructors title I will be celebrating a well deserved victory. You can think or say all the bullshiit in the world but in the end it is just that, bullshiit. That is all. :thumbup:

I'm sorry, but Ferrari's mistakes are Ferrari's problem. If your lot can't get things together, then don't blame us. Moreover, do you think that Ferrari are the only team to have made mistakes this season? McLaren have made a couple of dodgy strategy calls and Hamilton has made some very poor errors as well. Kovalainen, for the most part, has been below par as well. So, McLaren are also well within their rights to feel a little bit driver limited. Further, not only are McLaren competing against Ferrari, principally, but the FIA as well. McLaren have been hit with some outrageous penalties and have to watch every move they make, while the FIA reward Ferrari's gaffes and shocking driving with championship points. The fact is McLaren have been the more slick outfit in these past couple of seasons. The team has made fewer mistakes than Ferrari, has produced a better all-round car than Ferrari, have developed their car more effectively than Ferrari, have had better levels of reliability than Ferrari etc. - all of this with having had the FIA inspect the design of the MP4-23 and fine the team $100,000,000. Ferrari really should be ashamed of themselves this season that they have not won the title at canter without any FIA help.


Once again I don't agree. Although what you have said has some credabilty and facts, Ferrari was still the better car and team of 2008 as they were in 2007. You say it isn't McLaren's fault when Ferrari made their errors and have had their problems. Point taken and true, however in turn it isn't or wasn't Ferrari's fault or problem that McLaren have been penalised for rule breaking this season, plus were fined US $1 Million for something they did illegally and were aware of the consequences. Lewis Hamilton got what he deserved at Spa. We have all been through this many times thus I wont say them again. He deserved his penalty in Japan. He also did in France for what he did in Canada. I cannot see how this is Ferrari's problem and I also cannot see how the FIA has cheated. Going down to the FIA so called consipracy you all would love me to accept and make me look like an idiot to my friends back home, fact remains if the FIA wanted to cheat, they would of ensured Massa would be the advataged one going into the last Grand Prix of the season and likely contender to winthe title. That isn't the case. And believe me weather Lewis Hamilton drive flawlessly or not in China last weekend, the FIA is like God in F1 and they could of easily of had made something up to penalise Lewis Hamilton and/or McLaren if they wanted to. (As I mentioned in another post). At the end of the day, there is no consipracy, Ferrari have had their problems and it isn't McLaren's fault, and also McLaren have had theirs and it isn't Ferrari's fault. Also the punishment's ruled against McLaren in favour of Ferrari were not make believe as McLaren did do wrong and were punished fairly and accordingly. Also if you want to look at reliabilty issues. Heikkis DNF in the last 2 races due to reliabity were not Ferrari nor the FIA's fault. That is McLaren's own fault. I guess it makes up for some of Ferrari's DNFs (but not all) so in the end Ferrari should be leading in the constructors, deserve the 2008 constructors title and are clearly the best car/team of 2008.
#75978
If Kimi does clash with Lewis, which I highly doubt he will, I hope he makes it look like a 'racing incident' :hehe: .


Schui will be training him now. :(

Funny how those two incident's are constantly brought up :rolleyes: and we all know Kimi is his own worst nightmare. :wink:


Yeh i don't think he'll try anything i don't think he cares about Massa
#75982
I think your right and I'm wondering what does Kimi care about now?


Yeh its really werid i know he's always been kind of down personality wise its really more obvious now. See what happens next year i guess.
#75986
8-)
It will be incredibly interesting either way
knocking someone off so your champ or your team mate is not unheard of
It won't be very sporting of whoever, but, well, sportsmanship disappeared some years ago I think
I still love watching it, spos we'll hope for a better next year?

wonder what the new cars will look like?

I just hope they are all aloud to drive how they want to drive!
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