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[Davf126]

if alosnso helps massa wouldnt it affect the contract and lewis hamilton?

[AKR]

Let's play nice ok?

I agree. I would prefer to stick to bagging F1 teams and drivers if a bit of fun is needed but not make any personal comments. I would say most people here are great. In particular Anna (Racechick), Chris (McLaren Fan), Brad (Bud) and new kid on the block Longbow. All happen to be McLaren supporters by the way and all with a wealth of knowledge and points of views worth of a converstion. (Even if I don't always agree). I have always loved F1 and have had a vast and rich knowledge but am very biased regarding my team. This is normal given my passion towards F1 and Ferrari and I expect the same from the above McLarenites (Except not for Ferrari but for McLaren of course). They have in converstion allowed me to appreciate the view from the "other side" and for that I am always greatful. But what we don't need here is people getting personal and getting down right low. To Maily I don't need to speak to people like yourself if your not prepared to appreciate my values and just take me for some "uneducated Slovenian-Italian girl" as you called me on another post. If you can just open your eyes you'll see that I am highly educated. But if you wont then here is my advice, don't converse with me. Simple.

[McLaren Fan]

From Planet F1:

Alonso reiterates his desire to help Massa beat Lewis
Thursday 16th October 2008

Fernando Alonso has reiterated his desire to help Felipe Massa beat Lewis Hamilton to the World title - but not by any means fair or foul.

Following the Japanese GP, which Alonso won, the Spaniard told the press that he do would do whatever he can to help Massa beat his former McLaren nemesis to the title.

And given Alonso's apparent animosity for Hamilton, this sparked some concerns that he would soon be bumping the Brit off the track should the two find themselves side-by-side.

Alonso, though, has clarified his comments, clearly stating that while he wants to see Massa beat Hamilton he will help only be taking points off the McLaren man and not by shunting him into retirement.

"Obviously I was waiting for this question," he told the media in Thursday's press conference in Shanghai.

"When I said this in Fuji now we have a competitive car it seems we are able to fight with Ferrari and McLaren," he added.

"And first of all we need to have a competitive car here in Shanghai and in Brazil to be fighting with McLaren and Ferrari, and if we do that and Felipe Massa wins the race and I am second or third, I will be happy for Felipe to take as many points as possible and this is the only approach."

Having said that, though, Alonso would rather the third man in the title race, Robert Kubica, claim the crown. But sitting at 12 points behind Hamilton, Alonso concedes it won't be easy.

"You can be here forever, and you cannot misunderstand what I said," he said. "When we say all these things, my best relationship is with Robert and I would like to see him win the Championship.

"But it is quite difficult because the performance of his car means it will be difficult to recover 12 points.

"But I will do my own job but when you see the results you prefer some teams to win or some teams to win compared to others.

"I will not be any key part to the Championship, whatever driver wins will win because he did a better job in the last two races."

He added: "You can take whatever you want from my comment but it is very simple."

Hamilton refuses to take the bait
Thursday 16th October 2008

Rather than engage in a war-of-words with Fernando Alonso, Lewis Hamilton has told his old nemesis that he really doesn't care about what he has to say - right before being the bigger man and complimenting Renault.

The relationship between Hamilton and Alonso has been anything but pleasant since the two teamed up at McLaren last season. The rivalry caused a huge rift at Woking and ultimately resulted in Alonso leaving the team after just one season.

But despite not being team-mates the situation is still volatile with Alonso admitting in Thursday's press conference in China that he will do everything he can to help Felipe Massa beat Hamilton to this year's World title.

Hamilton, though, doesn't really care what Alonso has to say.

"I don't particularly have an opinion on it," Hamilton replied when asked about the comments.

"I focus on my job, if we can be competitive this weekend we will try and get points and be up front great, what the others do is up to them."

The Brit went on to prove that he is the bigger man by complimenting Renault on their improved performances rather than continuing to express his opinions on Alonso as he was asked to do.

"They (Renault) have done a fantastic job and great to see them do so well, and see how hard they have worked over the last two years," he said.

"Not a surprise to see them do so well, sure they will be pushing us hard through the weekend."

[Denthúl]

The interesting line is:

"And first of all we need to have a competitive car here in Shanghai and in Brazil to be fighting with McLaren and Ferrari, and if we do that and Felipe Massa wins the race and I am second or third, I will be happy for Felipe to take as many points as possible and this is the only approach."

The word help, nor the implication of him trying to help, is mentioned in there, yet the only headlines I've seen tagged to it are "Alonso vows to help Massa". I think it's something that is slightly unfair on the guy, but then, that's the press.

[stonemonkey]

TBH I think Alonso's over his frustrations from earlier in the season and is just out to prove himself and his words about helping Massa were just to stir things a bit.

My only concern is about what Kimi might do if he gets near Hamilton

[darwin dali]

TBH I think Alonso's over his frustrations from earlier in the season and is just out to prove himself and his words about helping Massa were just to stir things a bit.

My only concern is about what Kimi might do if he gets near Hamilton

KR wouldn't do anything. 1. he doesn't want to compromise his chances next year with some ban or whatever he might get for a stupid move of this proportion (i.e., deciding the championship). 2. he doesn't really want FM to win - he'd have to contend with a world champion in his own team, tough...

[nikon133]

Let's play nice ok?

Nice and peaceful picture you have there, texasmr2

That looks like Colt 1911 (or one of it's successors) with some modifications and good old Bowie Pathfinder, or something similar. Am I wrong?

[texasmr2]

Let's play nice ok?

Nice and peaceful picture you have there, texasmr2

That looks like Colt 1911 (or one of it's successors) with some modifications and good old Bowie Pathfinder, or something similar. Am I wrong?

Not sure about either one I just thought everyone would enjoy it, you know me being me and all!

[Flynn]

Very low level of intelligence Miss Kimi, that is why I am sitting here talking to you via this site. YES I am VERYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY old. By the things you like, you are obviously very young.

I am 23 daddy....................................... Are you gona spank me for being rude to daddy?

Owwwwwww, I wouldn't mind a go

[racechick]

Hi, i like to see your opinions guys ..

What is the best F1 battle posted in here ?

http://www.capsaicina.com.br/formula-1- ... apassagens

My opinion? the last one.

And Alonso will be doing a good thing if he helps Massa to win the title, he passed a lot of things in McL. The guys prefered to make a new driver whenthey already got one .. too bad for they .. if they supported Alonso last year, they would have winned the champ.

Also if theyd supported lewis but they dont do favours

[Rivelution]

I knew it was Alonso's grudge against McLaren, and not Lewis for Alonso to say this thing. When asked by SPEED's Peter Windsor, Alonso said it wasnt that he didnt want Hamilton to win its just that he would rather have the Ferrari beat the McLaren. He stated that he had great respect for Lewis, and that they have a great relationship but that he would prefer Ferrari to win mainly because of what happened at McLaren last year.

I still dont think Alonso should've said that he would 'help' Massa win the title though.

[racechick]

Hi, i like to see your opinions guys ..

What is the best F1 battle posted in here ?

http://www.capsaicina.com.br/formula-1- ... apassagens

My opinion? the last one.

And Alonso will be doing a good thing if he helps Massa to win the title, he passed a lot of things in McL. The guys prefered to make a new driver whenthey already got one .. too bad for they .. if they supported Alonso last year, they would have winned the champ.

Also if theyd supported lewis but they dont do favours

Ok, that is what happened .. leave the title with Ferrari because we dont have a favourite driver for the Year.

Ferrari have also begun to let their drivers race until one becomes the obvious leader for the championship by havin more points

[FerrariFan63]

So, if Alonso gets the jump on Massa tomorrow, is FA just going to let him past?

[racechick]

So, if Alonso gets the jump on Massa tomorrow, is FA just going to let him past?

Drive through for Alonso!! DO NOT PASS RED CARS!!
However Alonso wants to help Massa so maybe he'll just let him through.

[Denthúl]

I knew it was Alonso's grudge against McLaren, and not Lewis for Alonso to say this thing. When asked by SPEED's Peter Windsor, Alonso said it wasnt that he didnt want Hamilton to win its just that he would rather have the Ferrari beat the McLaren. He stated that he had great respect for Lewis, and that they have a great relationship but that he would prefer Ferrari to win mainly because of what happened at McLaren last year.

I still dont think Alonso should've said that he would 'help' Massa win the title though.

I'm pretty sure that his comment was "would be happy for Felipe to take as many points as possible", not "would be happy to help Felipe to take as many points as possible".

I agree with the rest, though. He has said it in various interviews over the course of the weekend that, after last year, he'd prefer Ferrari to beat McLaren. I don't think it had much to do with drivers.