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[Martin]

As far as 'professional achievements' Lewis has not achieved anymore than let's say Vettel or Sutil etc etc in a sense right? Now if your talking about 'on track' achievement's I would agree but that is only due to him entering F1 with a top team. Lewis is a very very naturally talented driver but so are alot of other's who have not had the equipment to prove it.

Lewis is awesome but he would not be where he is today without McLaren.

Vettel & Sutil certainly are talented drivers, but they don't get the media attention that LH does. Why not? because in his rookie year LH had fantastic achievements and nearly won the DWC, and he outdrove the reigning world champ in the same car. So expectations by media etc are high, and they love to knock someone when it does not go so well. If Sutil or Vettel received the same amount of media coverage as LH then I think that they would also get negative comment on this forum. Its the 'green eyed ' monster syndrome. Any driver with media coverage gets grief on forums like this, look at Alonso and MS in his day.
Yes it is true that LH did well in his rookie year because he drove a McLaren (quicker than Alonso did much of the time) but he got into McL. by his own efforts, it wasn't some magic gift that fell from the sky. When he was a boy driving Go Karts he made himself known to RD and told him that he wanted to drive McL one day, he then kept himself in RDs view by regular contact and by winning a lot in whatever he drove, until RD sponsored him. He worked for that, he deserves it, and it is a part of why he is a winner. Much of MS's success was because of what he did off track.

[racechick]

As far as 'professional achievements' Lewis has not achieved anymore than let's say Vettel or Sutil etc etc in a sense right? Now if your talking about 'on track' achievement's I would agree but that is only due to him entering F1 with a top team. Lewis is a very very naturally talented driver but so are alot of other's who have not had the equipment to prove it.

Lewis is awesome but he would not be where he is today without McLaren.

Vettel & Sutil certainly are talented drivers, but they don't get the media attention that LH does. Why not? because in his rookie year LH had fantastic achievements and nearly won the DWC, and he outdrove the reigning world champ in the same car. So expectations by media etc are high, and they love to knock someone when it does not go so well. If Sutil or Vettel received the same amount of media coverage as LH then I think that they would also get negative comment on this forum. Its the 'green eyed ' monster syndrome. Any driver with media coverage gets grief on forums like this, look at Alonso and MS in his day.
Yes it is true that LH did well in his rookie year because he drove a McLaren (quicker than Alonso did much of the time) but he got into McL. by his own efforts, it wasn't some magic gift that fell from the sky. When he was a boy driving Go Karts he made himself known to RD and told him that he wanted to drive McL one day, he then kept himself in RDs view by regular contact and by winning a lot in whatever he drove, until RD sponsored him. He worked for that, he deserves it, and it is a part of why he is a winner. Much of MS's success was because of what he did off track.

I think you hit the nail on the head with the green eyed monster

Its nice to hear someone saying it like it is.

[f1ea]

I think you hit the nail on the head with the green eyed monster
Its nice to hear someone saying it like it is.

Yeah its nice to hear someone saying what you want to hear

[Jensonb]

I think you hit the nail on the head with the green eyed monster

Its nice to hear someone saying it like it is.

I think it's extremely arrogant of the pair of you to say any such thing.

[racechick]

Do you? How so?

[Jensonb]

Do you? How so?

You're putting words in people's mouths by implying it's impossible to think Lewis Hamilton is an insufferable git without it being because you're jealous of his success.

It's also a broken assumption, because there are equally and even more successful drivers many of us think are great people.

[racechick]

Do you? How so?

You're putting words in people's mouths by implying it's impossible to think Lewis Hamilton is an insufferable git without it being because you're jealous of his success.

It's also a broken assumption, because there are equally and even more successful drivers many of us think are great people.

Not putting words into anyones mouth, simply agreeing with an alternative scenario to the "Lewis is an ungrateful arrogant insufferable git" camp. We all have our own opinions and can expresss them, it isn't only the right of the hamilton haters.

[texasmr2]

Do you? How so?

You're putting words in people's mouths by implying it's impossible to think Lewis Hamilton is an insufferable git without it being because you're jealous of his success.

It's also a broken assumption, because there are equally and even more successful drivers many of us think are great people.

Not putting words into anyones mouth, simply agreeing with an alternative scenario to the "Lewis is an ungrateful arrogant insufferable git" camp. We all have our own opinions and can expresss them, it isn't only the right of the hamilton haters.

How do you spell touche' ??

[racechick]

I think as you did with an acute accent on the e

[texasmr2]

I think as you did with an acute accent on the e

Sorry if I mispelled or mis-pronunciated but my keyboard is the simple version so that's why I continuelly digress.

[racechick]

I think as you did with an acute accent on the e

Sorry if I mispelled or mis-pronunciated but my keyboard is the simple version so that's why I continuelly digress.

You need the French keyboard to do the accents. Not sure how you pronounced it cos i couldn't hear you I continue the digressing (two gasses of wine now )

[f1ea]

Sorry if I mispelled or mis-pronunciated but my keyboard is the simple version so that's why I continuelly digress.

Try: Alt + 130 (remember to have num lock ON)
Touché.

[texasmr2]

Sorry if I mispelled or mis-pronunciated but my keyboard is the simple version so that's why I continuelly digress.

Try: Alt + 130 (remember to have num lock ON)
Touché.

I'm from Texas so that's pretty much Swedish to me !

[f1ea]

I'm from Texas so that's pretty much Swedish to me !

No, I mean while pressing the "alt" key, type "1" "3" "0" (in the numerical pad w/ num lock ON) and you will be able to type the "é" character.

So... Touché

[Jensonb]

Do you? How so?

You're putting words in people's mouths by implying it's impossible to think Lewis Hamilton is an insufferable git without it being because you're jealous of his success.

It's also a broken assumption, because there are equally and even more successful drivers many of us think are great people.

Not putting words into anyones mouth, simply agreeing with an alternative scenario to the "Lewis is an ungrateful arrogant insufferable git" camp. We all have our own opinions and can expresss them, it isn't only the right of the hamilton haters.

What's your point? It's still wrong to assume that people only hate him because they're jealous.