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#50261
Yep. Loved it!
#50262
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id4WVcvT2oE

This was why I liked Montoya.


Loved that too! What a star. Id be jumping out of my seat when he did those moves!
#50267
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id4WVcvT2oE

This was why I liked Montoya.


Loved that too! What a star. Id be jumping out of my seat when he did those moves!


Like this? :ahahah::mexwavebounce::bouncy2::bouncy1::bellydance:


I do bouncy's to at glasgow rangers games :P
#50269
I hope I dont get shot down for this, but why do people here not like Villeneuve?? He was before my time (I mean during his championship years0, so can someone explain why they dont like him? I think he's alright, I'm glad BMW dropped him tho.
#50273
Problem with Villeneuve, as with so many other lucky world champions, they don't know the difference between luck and skill.

JV was a good driver, not an X-Factor driver. He thought he was an X-Factor driver because he beat Schumacher.

When Schumacher went to Ferrari and started building the team around him he thought he could do that as well with British American Tobacco. JV wanted his own team around him, he thought he had the minerals to do all the things outside of the car that Schumacher was doing.

All of a sudden the harsh reality of life came crashing down on JV, he realised he didn't like testing, didn't like fitness, wasn't a team leader, didn't have enough strength of character so he started b!tching. B!tching about everyone and everything and making every excuse under the sun as to why he wasn't so good anymore, now the protective blanket of Williams was taken away.

You see, people criticise Williams, but they actually make their drivers look good. How else could button do so well in his first year and then do so badly at Renault? JV experienced the same thing. When Williams say to their drivers "Shut the f*ck up and drive, we'll do the rest", the drivers don't know how good they got it.

Anyway, JV probably thought his championship win was down to how good he was, when it wasn't. He had a fast car, he had a team that took care of everything and he did an infinite number of miles testing the '97 car before the season started.
#50274
I hope I dont get shot down for this, but why do people here not like Villeneuve?? He was before my time (I mean during his championship years0, so can someone explain why they dont like him? I think he's alright, I'm glad BMW dropped him tho.


He's a bit on the arrogant side... but that's back in fashion, so maybe that's why he wants back in :biglaugh:

Nah... apart from being a bit too arrogant, and not handling his teammates in the best manner, he also had some bad luck and his performance was not what was expected of him, specially with his name and coming from being an Indy champion. So.... more or less the average F1 victim :hehe:
#50277
Problem with Villeneuve, as with so many other lucky world champions, they don't know the difference between luck and skill.

JV was a good driver, not an X-Factor driver. He thought he was an X-Factor driver because he beat Schumacher.

When Schumacher went to Ferrari and started building the team around him he thought he could do that as well with British American Tobacco. JV wanted his own team around him, he thought he had the minerals to do all the things outside of the car that Schumacher was doing.

All of a sudden the harsh reality of life came crashing down on JV, he realised he didn't like testing, didn't like fitness, wasn't a team leader, didn't have enough strength of character so he started b!tching. B!tching about everyone and everything and making every excuse under the sun as to why he wasn't so good anymore, now the protective blanket of Williams was taken away.

You see, people criticise Williams, but they actually make their drivers look good. How else could button do so well in his first year and then do so badly at Renault? JV experienced the same thing. When Williams say to their drivers "Shut the f*ck up and drive, we'll do the rest", the drivers don't know how good they got it.

Anyway, JV probably thought his championship win was down to how good he was, when it wasn't. He had a fast car, he had a team that took care of everything and he did an infinite number of miles testing the '97 car before the season started.



Dang he is a far cry from his father. I wonder if he would've slapped him silly if he were still alive.
#50279
Problem with Villeneuve, as with so many other lucky world champions, they don't know the difference between luck and skill.

JV was a good driver, not an X-Factor driver. He thought he was an X-Factor driver because he beat Schumacher.

When Schumacher went to Ferrari and started building the team around him he thought he could do that as well with British American Tobacco. JV wanted his own team around him, he thought he had the minerals to do all the things outside of the car that Schumacher was doing.

All of a sudden the harsh reality of life came crashing down on JV, he realised he didn't like testing, didn't like fitness, wasn't a team leader, didn't have enough strength of character so he started b!tching. B!tching about everyone and everything and making every excuse under the sun as to why he wasn't so good anymore, now the protective blanket of Williams was taken away.

You see, people criticise Williams, but they actually make their drivers look good. How else could button do so well in his first year and then do so badly at Renault? JV experienced the same thing. When Williams say to their drivers "Shut the f*ck up and drive, we'll do the rest", the drivers don't know how good they got it.

Anyway, JV probably thought his championship win was down to how good he was, when it wasn't. He had a fast car, he had a team that took care of everything and he did an infinite number of miles testing the '97 car before the season started.



Dang he is a far cry from his father. I wonder if he would've slapped him silly if he were still alive.


His Dad was a bit of a legend...

I liked JV at the time, I even played an online game with him once called Everquest...Then I didn't like him so much...

I remember he did start criticising Bernie and the FIA quite a lot towards the end of his career, saying the rule to park the cars under lock and key allowed "The Powers That Be" to meddle with the cars and cheat. All of a sudden he started receiving a lot of bad press and his profile was shot to sh!t, wonder if that was related :wink:
#50281
Problem with Villeneuve, as with so many other lucky world champions, they don't know the difference between luck and skill.

JV was a good driver, not an X-Factor driver. He thought he was an X-Factor driver because he beat Schumacher.

When Schumacher went to Ferrari and started building the team around him he thought he could do that as well with British American Tobacco. JV wanted his own team around him, he thought he had the minerals to do all the things outside of the car that Schumacher was doing.

All of a sudden the harsh reality of life came crashing down on JV, he realised he didn't like testing, didn't like fitness, wasn't a team leader, didn't have enough strength of character so he started b!tching. B!tching about everyone and everything and making every excuse under the sun as to why he wasn't so good anymore, now the protective blanket of Williams was taken away.

You see, people criticise Williams, but they actually make their drivers look good. How else could button do so well in his first year and then do so badly at Renault? JV experienced the same thing. When Williams say to their drivers "Shut the f*ck up and drive, we'll do the rest", the drivers don't know how good they got it.

Anyway, JV probably thought his championship win was down to how good he was, when it wasn't. He had a fast car, he had a team that took care of everything and he did an infinite number of miles testing the '97 car before the season started.



Dang he is a far cry from his father. I wonder if he would've slapped him silly if he were still alive.


His Dad was a bit of a legend...

I liked JV at the time, I even played an online game with him once called Everquest...Then I didn't like him so much...

I remember he did start criticising Bernie and the FIA quite a lot towards the end of his career, saying the rule to park the cars under lock and key allowed "The Powers That Be" to meddle with the cars and cheat. All of a sudden he started receiving a lot of bad press and his profile was shot to sh!t, wonder if that was related :wink:


I think the guy peaked too early. I didn't see much greatness at Le man at night when it was raining, Tom Kristensen (older geezer to) reeled him in
#50283
I hope I dont get shot down for this, but why do people here not like Villeneuve?? He was before my time (I mean during his championship years0, so can someone explain why they dont like him? I think he's alright, I'm glad BMW dropped him tho.


He was nothing special. Glles however was.
#50284
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id4WVcvT2oE

This was why I liked Montoya.


Loved that too! What a star. Id be jumping out of my seat when he did those moves!


Like this? :ahahah::mexwavebounce::bouncy2::bouncy1::bellydance:


I do bouncy's to at glasgow rangers games :P


Yes just like that. A spot of belly dancing thrown in too :wink:
#50287
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id4WVcvT2oE

This was why I liked Montoya.


Loved that too! What a star. Id be jumping out of my seat when he did those moves!


Like this? :ahahah::mexwavebounce::bouncy2::bouncy1::bellydance:


I do bouncy's to at glasgow rangers games :P


Yes just like that. A spot of belly dancing thrown in too :wink:


And who knows what else for Juan eh? :laugh:
#50289
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id4WVcvT2oE

This was why I liked Montoya.


Loved that too! What a star. Id be jumping out of my seat when he did those moves!


Like this? :ahahah::mexwavebounce::bouncy2::bouncy1::bellydance:


I do bouncy's to at glasgow rangers games :P


Yes just like that. A spot of belly dancing thrown in too :wink:



Big chubby belly dancing :pinkelephant:
#50292
You see, people criticise Williams, but they actually make their drivers look good. How else could button do so well in his first year and then do so badly at Renault?

You mean Benetton. And because Williams make good cars, Benetton made a terrible one that year. But your point is correct.
#50297
You see, people criticise Williams, but they actually make their drivers look good. How else could button do so well in his first year and then do so badly at Renault?

You mean Benetton. And because Williams make good cars, Benetton made a terrible one that year. But your point is correct.


It was a shame, Button should never have left Williams, nor screwed them abut with Contracts. Look where he'd be now, with Rosberg.

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