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[darwin dali]

[Stephen]

That kind of sums it up for me. Wouldn't it be better turned around anyway (ignoring the fact the driver can't get in!)?

[darwin dali]

Turned around how?

[sagi58]

You can still feel the pain of a father losing his son!!

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, It doesn't have to look "cool" to be cool!!
In the end, if it saves lives, it is cool!!

Andrew Benson wrote:">Lewis Hamilton should change stance on 'halo' - John Surtees

..."I suffered the tragedy of losing Henry which certainly could've been prevented by a development like this," he said.

Ferrari's Sebastian Vettel had said the device can be as "ugly as possible" as long as it helps save lives. The German also thinks Henry Surtees would "still be around if we had this type of system"...

"Sebastian hit the nail very clearly on the head with what he said. Henry was hit by a wheel that weighed 28kg so there would have been a chance there [had a 'halo' been installed]."

McLaren's Fernando Alonso, meanwhile, says the 'halo' device is a "necessary" step.

"It will be the future of F1, because we cannot afford any serious injury or fatal accident as we had in the last two years," said the two-time world champion, referring to the fatal injuries sustained by Jules Bianchi and Justin Wilson...

[sagi58]

oooops....

[darwin dali]

Unfortunately, Halo wouldn't have helped Jules.

[rob91]

It may be all well and good for F1 drivers having this halo device on their racecars of the future but if F1 is the only series to have this device then it won't be of much comfort to an Indycar driver finding themselves in a similar situation to Justin Wilson or to a junior driver finding themselves in a similar situation to Henry Surtees.

If the halo is to be introduced to F1 it also needs to be introduced into all relevant motorsports such as Indycar and feeder formulae otherwise they have just wasted their time.

[sagi58]

Good point, Rob!!

Hopefully "someone" is listening!!

[overboost]

JV, never at a loss for words, states his opinion on halos and bubbles and beauty. He kinda has a point about the moto drivers.

Jacques Villeneuve: Drivers afraid to race without halos should just quit

Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one ... z43J9ztSnv

Past Formula One champion says risk-taking part of F1's beauty

Jacques Villeneuve has slammed Formula One drivers who are calling loudly for the introduction of the halo cockpit protection system.

The story has split the driver camp, with Daniel Ricciardo telling Nico Hulkenberg recently to stop being a hero by arguing against the radical safety concept. "I read that and it made me smile," Hulkenberg hit back in Melbourne. "He has his opinion and I have mine and he should respect that." Indeed, Hulkenberg said his opinion is so strong, that he would gladly give up many of today's safety advances in order to drive the F1 monsters of the past. "Yes," he told Germany's Auto Bild. "Despite the much greater risk of injury that the drivers had back then."

Hulkenberg is not alone.

Former Manor racer Roberto Merhi told El Mundo newspaper that "drivers know from the beginning that this is a risky sport."

And 1997 world champion Villeneuve, an avowed purist, scolded those who are balking at one of the last remaining risks of being a Grand Prix driver. "If they are afraid, they should go and race touring cars," Villeneuve told Le Figaro. "Yes, we must strive for safety, but there are limits we should not exceed. Risk-taking is inherent in F1. It's part of the beauty of the sport. "For me, halo is too much. I see it that these drivers earn millions and yet they do not want to take any chances. Too bad. "Do the moto riders ask to ride inside a bubble? This is why they are increasingly respected and admired compared to Formula One drivers."


Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one ... z43JACBsHg

[darwin dali]

Apparently, Charlie Whiting said today that the Halo will be mandatory from 2017 on. It'll be a standard halo, i.e., the same for all teams and the FIA won't budge even if another, better design of driver protection shows up in the meantime - the Halo it is for now.
Ironically, the race series that triggered this all with Justin Wilson's death during an Indy Car race doesn't even talk to the FIA about implementing the Halo.

[rob91]

Apparently, Charlie Whiting said today that the Halo will be mandatory from 2017 on. It'll be a standard halo, i.e., the same for all teams and the FIA won't budge even if another, better design of driver protection shows up in the meantime - the Halo it is for now.
Ironically, the race series that triggered this all with Justin Wilson's death during an Indy Car race doesn't even talk to the FIA about implementing the Halo.

The FIA don't even think about it, to them it's all about F1 and everything else doesn't matter even one iota.

[myownalias]

The problem with the halo as seen on the Ferrari is that it's not a full protection structure, there is potential for debris or a piece of equipment to come from the left or right of center and still hit the driver. If we are to proceed with the cockpit protection systems, we need to have an aircraft style canopy which would deflect an impact absolutely.

[sagi58]

NOT that you can put a price on human life; but, so much for reducing costs, eh?

[overboost]

The problem with the halo as seen on the Ferrari is that it's not a full protection structure, there is potential for debris or a piece of equipment to come from the left or right of center and still hit the driver. If we are to proceed with the cockpit protection systems, we need to have an aircraft style canopy which would deflect an impact absolutely.

I think this is the right way to go also. Similar perhaps to the Red Bull idea: