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#429045
Button is smart, he could get his 25 mill for next year plus another 25 mill to leave and go race in WEC he would need to sign the contract before the IPO and before the TP is replaced by a junior associate from goldman sachs
#429080
I have to agree with you, MOA!!
It's tiresome reading how everything at McLaren is Button's "fault",
when, in fact, he's only one piece of the puzzle called "TEAM"!!


As usual you dont have any clue about what you post, you are not agreeing with MOA - you are actually agreeing that its the team to blame, well that team has been sacked except Jenson - therefore you have ignorantly contradicted yourself and are suggesting Jensons team, who have been sacked are at fault - thereby agreeing that Jensons humiliation is payback for the failure.

but you wont understand this


What you don't understand is that you are quite transparent.
Anyone who doesn't agree with every word pounded out on
your keyboard becomes target practice for you.
#429081
Interesting. Dennis doesn't have full control of his team as the board doesn't trust him make driver decisions. I wonder what other decisions Dennis has to defer to the board?

I bet the micro manager doesn't like being micro managed!

OB Are you saying words again in the hopes that some of them may make sense?


I think they just don't understand that words carry meanings outside their fantasy world where anything goes. I mean how can Ron be micro managed at a quarterly board meeting? Micro managing is the real world is Ron standing at Ericks back telling him how to do, a board decision made by members of which Ron is the chairman is some how the board standing at his shoulder?

Maybe he meant macro manage but that wouldn't be accurate either, maybe he just meant to put Ron down and got confused

Oh well, another mea culpa for the expertz


Cooking, boards micromanage. And they don't do it by standing over your shoulder. Getting involved in the decision making that they have hired the executive to make or requiring frequent reports and audits scrutinizing the accounting.

Usually the reason for not letting your executive make decisions and increasing oversight is lack of confidence.

http://www.jcamp180.org/knowledge-cente ... -isnt.aspx


:doh: requiring reports and audits is not the context here - the context here is a board meeting therefore your claim of Ron being micro managed is :bs:


Decision making cookin, that is context and the lack of confidence the board is showing in Dennis by having him appear at the board meeting and not accept his judgement. And then to enter into a debate offering alternate solutions. Dennis must be in shock.
#429083
:doh: - by having him appear at a board meeting???? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

get in the habit of educating yourself before offering opinions - it will serve you well for adult life and when you get a job etc, dont speak if you dont know what you are talking about, credibility is easily lost and terribly hard to regain

the thing is that if you were to take care and learn before you speak, its not just for the moment, it enriches you as it could come in handy in future (assuming you have a memory that works)

Why dont you go and find out what rights a CEO who is a 25% owner with voting rights and mandated voting share veto as well as being the only exec on the board

and then come back and try been a sausage again :thumbdown:
#429084
:doh: - by having him appear at a board meeting???? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

get in the habit of educating yourself before offering opinions - it will serve you well for adult life and when you get a job etc, dont speak if you dont know what you are talking about, credibility is easily lost and terribly hard to regain

the thing is that if you were to take care and learn before you speak, its not just for the moment, it enriches you as it could come in handy in future (assuming you have a memory that works)

Why dont you go and find out what rights a CEO who is a 25% owner with voting rights and mandated voting share veto as well as being the only exec on the board

and then come back and try been a sausage again :thumbdown:


He doesn't have the right to pick a driver for his own team obviously! Nor could he even convince anyone to vote with him. Dennis vision for the team is disregarded by the board and all you can do is comment on his mandated voting rights and attempt a juvenile slam on the wording of my post.

I don't need to talk about what voting rights Dennis had because it is plain for all to see that he didn't have enough votes! What a ridiculous comment for you to make.

Try again cooking and perhaps this time try to focus on the topic.
#429087
Theres a surprise, how did I guess you wouldnt have the Gumption to go and learn something useful, instead of use your ignorance to twist the simple discussion - that the McLaren board cannot micromanage Ron as per your latest :bs: Mea Culpa

Ron and Mansour have 50% between them and they also have a mandated agreement to only vote together, the Bharainis own the other 50%

Hence we have a deadlock - not 'micro management' a word you dont even have a clue about how to use, anyway enough of this, why dont you and sagi just have a circular argument amongst yourselves about how MS micromanaged the 2014 Hybrid engine and as a result each team can customise its own engines before each race to save money :thumbup:
#429088
OK, I am locking this thread down until we get a decision from McLaren. I'm fed up of Insult after insult, thread after thread, enough!!!

Is it really that hard to respect another persons opinion without getting personal and insulting?!?!... I really wonder!!!
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By LH44
#429601
McLaren don't pull stunts like that. Definitely not under Ron. You have to also respect how they've loosely guarded the name of the driver likely to keep his seat with no drop feeds to the press. Very professional and far away from the incompetent regime under Whitmarsh. I hope Jenson keeps the seat. I just don't see anything special about K Mag and I've said before there is plenty of him in GP2. Lewis set the benchmark in 07.
#429604
One thing for certain is everyone is talking about McLaren again, and talking about them as a great team that is making the moves and calling the shots. All the build up, tension, a press meeting in it sent out to selected media, no leaks or any divergence or weakness from the 'doing the best for the team' line. All the will they or won't they- it's pure Ron, he is always up to something that is talked about.
It's the old days back, you don't know what's happening but be sure Ron is following a big strategy clinically, apart from the lame Brit media blitz for keeping Button, no one really cares or would let it affect their regard for the team

Ron is a proven winner when it comes to executing strategy - the best on the grid and that includes Frank , Ross or anyone else

Despite the press negativity and a few disgruntled Button fans everyone is enjoying this and there is a real buzz about the team and a sense of purpose or even destiny

F1 needs more strong leaders like Ron
By LRW
#429609
That's also in the Telegraph and all over Twitter.

Telegraph says the delay was down to Ron trying to bring in Danish Sponsorship so he could have his choice of Kevin.
#429610
One thing for certain is everyone is talking about McLaren again, and talking about them as a great team that is making the moves and calling the shots. All the build up, tension, a press meeting in it sent out to selected media, no leaks or any divergence or weakness from the 'doing the best for the team' line. All the will they or won't they- it's pure Ron, he is always up to something that is talked about.
It's the old days back, you don't know what's happening but be sure Ron is following a big strategy clinically, apart from the lame Brit media blitz for keeping Button, no one really cares or would let it affect their regard for the team

Ron is a proven winner when it comes to executing strategy - the best on the grid and that includes Frank , Ross or anyone else

Despite the press negativity and a few disgruntled Button fans everyone is enjoying this and there is a real buzz about the team and a sense of purpose or even destiny

F1 needs more strong leaders like Ron


If Ron is so good then why is he such a loser? Only one constructors championship over the last 23 years!

And people aren't talking about McLaren, they are talking out of a sincere concern about Jenson Button and how Ron is personally trying to oust him.
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