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[sagi58]

What if Lady Luck had been smiling on Rosberg?
Would she have been banned from future races?

[racechick]

Lady Luck is a law unto herself as the whole of this year has shown.

[sagi58]

This year may have been a defining moment for some;
but, she's been around and made herself a force to be
reckoned with for a lot longer!

[CookinFlat6]

what does that actually mean

[racechick]

I know that Sagi. I'm saying we had a demonstration of it this year.

[LH44]

Erm what if Hamilton had suffered the mechanical fault yesterday and Rosberg had won the race.

http://www.forumula1.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=13671&start=68 was never ever gonna happen despite the public opinion pointing to a 10% chance

Still a possibility and no doubt would've opened up a can of worms and split opinion on whether Rosberg deserved it on not. Nobody can dispute that Lewis didn't deserve it however. Certainly not the sane.

It's not clear whether Rosberg's off track excursion triggered the issue but I think he's been having braking issue in race trim all year. He did go off track limits briefly at Interlagos when leading but it wasn't picked up by the commentary.

Modern sports has no place for cheats and certainly Rosberg has learned a harsh lesson this year and most importantly managed to salvage his reputation. You can't deny he conducted himself very well yesterday and was far from the smug looking twit at Monaco. Important for him that he doesn't turn into a Webber for the duration of Mercs dominance.

[CookinFlat6]

well said LH44

Nico went one way earlier but has come back, and the team management proved themselves worthy with their conduct through the whole thing on balance, as did Lewis and Nico

I am just waiting for the Watson and Stewart postmortems

[racechick]

oh Stewart's is out. Just a one liner on the BBC site somewhere. Nico was as good as Lewis.

[CookinFlat6]

Newly-crowned Formula 1 world champion Lewis Hamilton cannot be considered a great yet, but he is on the right path, according to Sir Jackie Stewart.
Hamilton joins Stewart, Jim Clark and Graham Hill as the only British drivers to have won two or more titles.
Stewart, 75, told BBC Sport: "Lewis can become one of the great drivers.
"But you can't judge that based purely on this year's performance because of Mercedes's superiority throughout the whole season."

Nope, but what about winning with 2 different teams which matches the himself who also lost to his teammate in the dominant team

In a wide-ranging interview with BBC Sport, Stewart suggests:
Mercedes's domination in the sport has made F1 "boring"
Mercedes will have greater competition in the 2015 season

ofcourse it has, just like you said about red Bull right?? right??? oh Merc have MADE F1 boring now? what a merc will be even further ahead next year to

He added: "There's a lot still to be done to achieve the greatness that I think everyone has perhaps placed on him prematurely.

Just as well as the borefests opinion is considered so highly by the Merc marketing department

"To become a great, Lewis has to continue to win," added three-time champion Stewart. "He must choose the best teams to drive for and keep his head focused on being a professional.

haha, says the muppet who told him he was 'not thinking clearly' by leaving McLaren for Merc

[Hammer278]

Old man senility, he should take up knitting with Bernie. Though Bernie is definitely sharper.

[overboost]

oh Stewart's is out. Just a one liner on the BBC site somewhere. Nico was as good as Lewis.

And that is probably the obvious truth that Merc will be struggling with (if someone like Jackie can see it I am sure that they figured it out long ago!), why pay so much for a #1 driver when their car can be driven to titles by any of a group of drivers that demand much less salary.

If I were Hamilton I would be hoping that the freeze is done away with such that Merc can justify having such a highly paid driver on staff.

[racechick]

oh Stewart's is out. Just a one liner on the BBC site somewhere. Nico was as good as Lewis.

And that is probably the obvious truth that Merc will be struggling with (if someone like Jackie can see it I am sure that they figured it out long ago!), why pay so much for a #1 driver when their car can be driven to titles by any of a group of drivers that demand much less salary.

If I were Hamilton I would be hoping that the freeze is done away with such that Merc can justify having such a highly paid driver on staff.

Hang on. You're forgetting the little point of FIVE WINS V ELEVEN WINS. THATS 5 v 11 mercedes will be doing EVERYTHING in they're power to resign Hamilton. If other teams close the gap Lewis is exactly what they need.

[CookinFlat6]

oh Stewart's is out. Just a one liner on the BBC site somewhere. Nico was as good as Lewis.

And that is probably the obvious truth that Merc will be struggling with (if someone like Jackie can see it I am sure that they figured it out long ago!), why pay so much for a #1 driver when their car can be driven to titles by any of a group of drivers that demand much less salary.

If I were Hamilton I would be hoping that the freeze is done away with such that Merc can justify having such a highly paid driver on staff.

OB, its one thing stating your opinion about a particular topic, and its one thing getting a response that provides you with the actual facts to help you think more deeply about it.

But its rather bad form to start again with exactly the same discredited stuff, perhaps you forget in your haste to post the latest thought to pop into your head, but to some it could appear that you are not interested in the facts and only in (feebly) finding negatives about the World Champion

I know its probably just that you cant remember as far back as Summer - happily we have the search function to help you become more honest

If this continues Merc are going to start scratching their heads as to why they recruited Hamilton and are paying him so much more than Rosberg.

You think a team dominating the way Merc is scratches their heads? Definetely not the marketing guys especially since Lewis is the biggest attraction in the grid. Neither his boss Toto who claims Lewis is faster or the chairman of Daimler who have known and backed Lewis instead of Nico for over a decade

It could even be the fact a Lewis beat Nico last year

Nah, only haters are scratching their chinless heads

Is Lewis winning the Lewis V Nico marketing battle?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/10840853/Lewis-Hamilton-is-named-the-worlds-most-marketable-sportsperson.html

It's a bit sad when the tifosi can't even bash other teams or drivers with properly thought out put downs. It's all half hearted nowadays, a bit like the team itself, or a bit like Kimi
'Lets just throw something in and hope for the best, if it's factually incorrect we can always claim to have a mea culpa, or to have limited knowledge or even to be too new to F1 to understand it'
'Lets stick a whip smiley on the end, that will have them foxed'

Interesting article with Hamilton the top rated sportsman in the world. I wonder though if things would be different now as the timing of that was when Hamilton was on a high leading the wdc and with four straight wins and poles just before Monaco. It's been a Rosberg show since then.

Hamilton certainly personally benefits from such a high rating, I also wonder if Merc benefits from Hamilton's brand in the actual selling of their cars verses a Rosberg led team? I am sure that Merc have their own studies and are crunching the numbers as things progress. Lots of racing still to come .for Hamilton to turn his fortunes around.

[overboost]

oh Stewart's is out. Just a one liner on the BBC site somewhere. Nico was as good as Lewis.

And that is probably the obvious truth that Merc will be struggling with (if someone like Jackie can see it I am sure that they figured it out long ago!), why pay so much for a #1 driver when their car can be driven to titles by any of a group of drivers that demand much less salary.

If I were Hamilton I would be hoping that the freeze is done away with such that Merc can justify having such a highly paid driver on staff.

OB, its one thing stating your opinion about a particular topic, and its one thing getting a response that provides you with the actual facts to help you think more deeply about it.

But its rather bad form to start again with exactly the same discredited stuff, perhaps you forget in your haste to post the latest thought to pop into your head, but to some it could appear that you are not interested in the facts and only in (feebly) finding negatives about the World Champion

I know its probably just that you cant remember as far back as Summer - happily we have the search function to help you become more honest

If this continues Merc are going to start scratching their heads as to why they recruited Hamilton and are paying him so much more than Rosberg.

You think a team dominating the way Merc is scratches their heads? Definetely not the marketing guys especially since Lewis is the biggest attraction in the grid. Neither his boss Toto who claims Lewis is faster or the chairman of Daimler who have known and backed Lewis instead of Nico for over a decade

It could even be the fact a Lewis beat Nico last year

Nah, only haters are scratching their chinless heads

Is Lewis winning the Lewis V Nico marketing battle?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/10840853/Lewis-Hamilton-is-named-the-worlds-most-marketable-sportsperson.html

It's a bit sad when the tifosi can't even bash other teams or drivers with properly thought out put downs. It's all half hearted nowadays, a bit like the team itself, or a bit like Kimi
'Lets just throw something in and hope for the best, if it's factually incorrect we can always claim to have a mea culpa, or to have limited knowledge or even to be too new to F1 to understand it'
'Lets stick a whip smiley on the end, that will have them foxed'

Interesting article with Hamilton the top rated sportsman in the world. I wonder though if things would be different now as the timing of that was when Hamilton was on a high leading the wdc and with four straight wins and poles just before Monaco. It's been a Rosberg show since then.

Hamilton certainly personally benefits from such a high rating, I also wonder if Merc benefits from Hamilton's brand in the actual selling of their cars verses a Rosberg led team? I am sure that Merc have their own studies and are crunching the numbers as things progress. Lots of racing still to come .for Hamilton to turn his fortunes around.

Thanks cooking. Looks like I got it right, Hamilton did turn his fortunes around just as I had surmised.

So What If Hamilton wasn't in the W05?

The facts are that Rosberg/Merc would be probably be sitting with perhaps 15 wins and the wdc/wcc if Hamilton wasn't there and Merc had subbed a low cost inexperienced up and comer in his place.

I do think that if the Merc domination does carry on that those in Stuttgart who focus on the bottom line may not see the need for high priced drivers or on the other hand if sales go up they may like what they see and get Lewis in a long term deal. We will see. Just food for thought cooking.

[CookinFlat6]

Do you have a difficulty in retaining or processing info?

I just posted the link where I helped you see that for a company like Merc Lewis is not just a driver but a marketeer and therefore its irrelevant what he gets paid and what he does on track as long as his marketeability remains high which is of course dependent on what he does on track. And I even posted a link for you to discover why and how he is the biggest marketing draw on the grid, i.e bigger than Nico

yet you react like you forgot engage both parts of your brain and launch into a useless discussion we had months ago

Are you on drink? or on drugs? because this is beyond mere short term memory loss or uncontrollable biogotry and bias, you dont even know what you already argued about??