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[Hammer278]

I was expecting that new penalty to be applied. The 5 sec addition to the pitstop, but no, he escaped punishment again, and once again Hamilton was the resultant loser from his actions. I'm pretty damn certain there would have been penalties handed out had the positions of those two been reversed In the last two races.

But a 5 second stop and go is at least 8X worse that what he gained in that move, he couldn't slow down and had to avoid flying into the wall of champions and red flagging the race, you can't give someone a massive penalty of 5 seconds for that.

This is not a very smart argument. The penalty is there to PENALIZE...not NEUTRALIZE.

If someone speeds up by 1km/h in the pitlane before exit, he gets a drive through penalty which costs about 10000x of his time gained. Are you saying this is fair then?

[LRW]

The penalty is there to PENALIZE...not NEUTRALIZE.

[1Lemon]

Fair point, but it's still overkill, he was avoiding an accident not dangerously driving, he gained a tiny advantage, as did several other drivers that race who all cut corners at various points but nobody cares about those.

[LRW]

I dont remember anyone cutting a corner so blatantly - but I can believe there might of been - who else was there?

Its not the cutting the corner that I have trouble with - he locked up - he needed to take that line. It was the seeming acceleration he did it with!

[Hammer278]

Fair point, but it's still overkill, he was avoiding an accident not dangerously driving, he gained a tiny advantage, as did several other drivers that race who all cut corners at various points but nobody cares about those.

0.6 second advantage which took him out of DRS zone and made Lewis take 2 laps to get back into. This is a serious advantage which adds up in a race. Tyres/brakes/energy recovery abilities shift lap by lap as is well known, so it can easily be argued Rosberg escaped serious threat in those 2 laps when he was most vulnerable by taking the shortcut.

Consider roles are reversed, what might you think then?

[gdh]

A fantastic race to watch from the stands. It was exciting from the opening lap through to the checkered flag. Lots of what is being discussed above we only saw on monitors but most everyone, even the NR fanboys were expecting some sort of penalty. We could hear a difference NR and LH cars when they came by with LH out not long after. I never noticed just how much these cars dart around when they get on the throttle.
Well done Red Bull, sad about Massa as he was the sentimental crowd favourite in our area of the stands. There was a huge cheer when it was announced that Pastor was out with comments like he drives like he's in NASCAR where there is plenty of intentional bumping.
Weather was perfect, race was exciting, we met a lot of very nice and ppl who plan on joining our Austin wknd. Too bad New Jersey didn't happen.

[What's Burning?]

I was expecting that new penalty to be applied. The 5 sec addition to the pitstop, but no, he escaped punishment again, and once again Hamilton was the resultant loser from his actions. I'm pretty damn certain there would have been penalties handed out had the positions of those two been reversed In the last two races.

But a 5 second stop and go is at least 8X worse that what he gained in that move, he couldn't slow down and had to avoid flying into the wall of champions and red flagging the race, you can't give someone a massive penalty of 5 seconds for that.

Why couldn't he slow down?

My answer, he was under pressure of losing his position, and by cutting the chicane he avoided both that and gained a (according to the rules) lasting advantage. It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. I'm actually more disappointed for Mercedes than I am the Lewis Nico battle.

[sagi58]

I believe I heard the commentators opining that since Hamilton wasn't trying
in that specific split second to pass Rosberg, there really was no advantage.

I realize that race stewards don't make fans of those whose driver has been
"wronged"; but, in the end, they do look at the telemetry as well as footage
at angles we aren't privy to, as an audience. Their decision is going to be
subjective and it's not going to be popular with everyone.

[sagi58]

A fantastic race to watch from the stands. It was exciting from the opening lap through to the checkered flag...

...Weather was perfect, race was exciting, we met a lot of very nice and ppl who plan on joining our Austin wknd. Too bad New Jersey didn't happen.

Sounds like you had the Grand Prix experience we all want!!
Very happy for you!!

p.s. you'll have plenty of time to catch up with the commentary
and to add your own...we still have two weeks ahead of us!!

[LRW]

Surely a stewards decision should be objective...?

[What's Burning?]

Btw guys, I'm pretty sure there was no acceleration in the cutting of the chicane, I'm sure the telemetry would show that. It's a visual comparison of what he needed to do and how Hamilton slows his car compared to Nico not having to slow his car nearly as much. He gained an advantage by being able to unblock the brakes and steer through the gap that was free of the speed bump.

[sagi58]

Surely a stewards decision should be objective...?

To the extent that they look at the data and watch the replays, yes!
But, when it's as close a call as this, their subjectivity comes into play
as can be inferred with them giving Rosberg a "final" warning instead
of a penalty!

[What's Burning?]

Surely a stewards decision should be objective...?

Subjective, Ferrari should always benefit.

[sagi58]

Surely a stewards decision should be objective...?

Subjective, Ferrari should always benefit.

Even when they aren't involved!!

(( ))

[What's Burning?]

After this weekend, I think both Ferrari and McLaren will pull the rip chord on the 2014 season and focus their efforts on next year's car. Red Bull may continue on for a bit because they have certainly found more power with the Renault power plant, but it's clear how far everyone else is from Mercedes that Nico even without having the K harnessing capability of the car, was still able to fend off for so long.