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#403857
Top job in not only screwing Williams' best chance this season but Perez/Force Indias as well. *thumbs up*

Before anyone gets all emo about my comment, he's totally fine and just having precautionary checks.


Unfair considering it was Perez' fault...

You simply can't move like that in the braking zone, giving cars behind absolutely no reaction time. It was absolutely clear in the replay, you can actually pinpoint the exact moment that he changes his line and moves directly in front of where the Williams was about to be. Sadly this is one of a growing list of silly moves like this that Perez has been at fault for over the past couple of seasons.
#403859
So in the past two races Rosberg has been under investigation for incidents that have several compromised his team mate , and both times he's got away with it.

Both cars have problems, Lewis retires and they manage to fix Rosberg's. So they saw what happenned to Lewis and told Rosberg how to avoid if.

Great driving from Rosberg?? I didn't see great driving from him today . I saw reasonable driving. He shoved his teammate off the track. He nearly lost it and hit the wall. He cut a chicane gaining a big advantage, he had to ask for his team mates data during the race. When they both developped problems and Lewis retired they sorted the issue for Rosberg by seeing what happenned to Lewis. That's not great driving. Daniel Ricciardo did great driving.

And two Merc DNF's for Lewis , non for Rosberg.

So Lewis gets all the bad luck and I hate it. He'd have had him today on driving easily.
#403863
Wonder what the odds are that both items merc engines had the same issue on the same lap.

Sent using NCC-1701

See that was suspicions to me too, possibly some software bug?
#403865
The problem was likely triggered on both cars at the same time as a result of the Merc equality mandate. So they were probably both told to change a setting at same time trigering the issue. The only way it was as a result of a conspiracy is if the team realised that Lewis was heavier on his rear brakes than Nico and buy removing the ERCs for both by remote control Lewis would suffer more and lose the brakes and Nico wouldnt. But that would really be reaching by anyones standards
#403867
Because of the battle they were both heavier on the brakes, and the subsequent failure. IMO if Lewis had been given the position because of Nico's run off, the problem would likely have been managed and we could have seen a 1-2 finish. A precarious one, but given the details. Mercedes use the smallest rear brakes of any team which was the reason for the failure.

Lewis had to once again claw back and break the DRS gap, which he had down to around .5 when Nico ran the chicane. After that it went back up to well over a second. I'm sure that additional strain caused the more pronounced failure on his car. Let's see what the week ahead reveals as the actual issue.
#403868
Agreed, if they had imposed team orders they would not have aggravated the issue and could have managed a 1/2 despite no Ers. It goes to show how much in hand the Mercs have, no ERS, so at least 160 bhp down and were still faster in the corners, only losing out on the straights. Finishing a mile ahead of ferrari even without ERS is embarrasing

Also Lewis was very careful around Nico whereas Nico was more aggresive, could be a result of the team telling the drivers the guy behind would be blamed more for any crash. In the first corner Lewis really should have kept his line and put is foot down and invited Nico to crash into him. In hindsight both going off is much better for Lewis than letting Nico win or even worse risking a dnf vs Nico winning. But hindsight is one thing and seriously alienating the team is another :hehe:
#403869
Ferrari's promised upgrades yielded very little. McLaren have lots of catching up to do, but at least they came away with decent points.

I was thinking about this as well. At the end of the year FOM television profits are split based on car time in front the the cameras. Ferrari and McLaren earned very little money from this race. I think it was the least amount of camera time I can ever recall seeing from either marque.
#403871
...I think Vettel was very gracious as well.

I thought the same thing!! You could tell it was genuine!!

p.s. I think they both have amazingly infectious smiles!! :D

p.s.s. Sorry I wasn't around, would have been fun to chat during the race!! :wavey:
#403872
...I think that's unfair - I thought Rosberg's move at the start was disgraceful, and extending his lead by cutting the chicane was very poor, but the way he managed his car through what should have been a terminal problem for 30+ laps to only miss out on the win by a whisker was phenomenal. I really don't understand without bias how it can be viewed any other way...

Agree!! First he had to battle his teammate, in the same equipment;
but, then he was battling "unknown" forces/gremlins in his car.

Hamilton wasn't able to continue, probably because his problems were
different; but, Rosberg trudged onwards!! Great determination!!
#403873
They had the same problem. Rosberg was able to continue because the team could tell Rosberg what he had to do in light of what had happened to Lewis. Once again Rosberg was a very lucky boy.
#403874
... On top of that, luck is always a very important component of a championship. I estimate it often contributes to about 30 per cent of the championship?

30 percent luck, 60 per cent car reliability, 10 per cent driver skill?

Maybe a little bit different to that... 10% luck, 10% skill, 80% reliable car... What do you guys think? :wavey:


I truly believe that "the whole is greater than the sum of the parts",
so much so that I give the team, the car and the driver each a 33%
with Lady Luck holding all the cards with 1%!
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