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[zurich_allan]

This is a massive moment for the championship. Had some luck but also some solid driving from Rosberg.

Gonna be hard for Hamilton to overcome that.

Solid driving from Rosberg? The guy was completely rattled with Lewis behind him, and again stayed ahead due to some serious luck'

As far as hard for Lewis to overcome, its only 3 wins in a row to claw back the deficit

It makes the title a lot more interesting anyway

I think that's unfair - I thought Rosberg's move at the start was disgraceful, and extending his lead by cutting the chicane was very poor, but the way he managed his car through what should have been a terminal problem for 30+ laps to only miss out on the win by a whisker was phenomenal. I really don't understand without bias how it can be viewed any other way...

But you have just confirmed that he was only in that position to nurse his car home ahead of ultimately slower cars because of at least 2 questionable plays - you called one disgraceful and the other poor

yet you dont understand how he cant be deemed to have driven a soild RACE (race is over 70 laps)

And you tallk about bias?

Are you serious?

Yes I'm serious. I'm completely unbiased. Two questionable moves at two corners over the course of a 70 lap race with 600+ corners does not equal a poor entire race. I'm going to repeat - Rosberg overall drove a VERY good race under tremendous pressure from BOTH mechanics and competitors.

Ah so its a very good race now? downgraded from phenomenal? So its with the realms of reason to have another opinion that he was rattled earlier and was competent at the end and so overall not a solid race. Maybe one could even have this opinion without the bias you mentioned?

It was a phenomenal drive from the moment the problem appeared, which effectively saved him an incredibly unlikely podium. I genuinely don't think without bias it's reasonable to assert anything else.

Sure a race goes through phases, as it does for every single driver on the grid. Overall though, taking a holistic viewpoint, there was nothing more Rosberg could do than he did, and by rights he should have been finishing 6th or lower if at all, so to finish 2nd, barely a second from the win was WAY more than he should have been able to get from the race.

[Hammer278]

This is a massive moment for the championship. Had some luck but also some solid driving from Rosberg.

Gonna be hard for Hamilton to overcome that.

Solid driving from Rosberg? The guy was completely rattled with Lewis behind him, and again stayed ahead due to some serious luck'

As far as hard for Lewis to overcome, its only 3 wins in a row to claw back the deficit

It makes the title a lot more interesting anyway

I think that's unfair - I thought Rosberg's move at the start was disgraceful, and extending his lead by cutting the chicane was very poor, but the way he managed his car through what should have been a terminal problem for 30+ laps to only miss out on the win by a whisker was phenomenal. I really don't understand without bias how it can be viewed any other way...

But you have just confirmed that he was only in that position to nurse his car home ahead of ultimately slower cars because of at least 2 questionable plays - you called one disgraceful and the other poor

yet you dont understand how he cant be deemed to have driven a soild RACE (race is over 70 laps)

And you tallk about bias?

Are you serious?

Yes I'm serious. I'm completely unbiased. Two questionable moves at two corners over the course of a 70 lap race with 600+ corners does not equal a poor entire race. I'm going to repeat - Rosberg overall drove a VERY good race under tremendous pressure from BOTH mechanics and competitors.

Ah so its a very good race now? downgraded from phenomenal? So its with the realms of reason to have another opinion that he was rattled earlier and was competent at the end and so overall not a solid race. Maybe one could even have this opinion without the bias you mentioned?

It was a phenomenal drive from the moment the problem appeared, which effectively saved him an incredibly unlikely podium. I genuinely don't think without bias it's reasonable to assert anything else.

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Getting a huge load of luck when you have a problem does not equal phenomenal.

Riccardo got past a <Edited - Jab> Force India (which was doing the best blocking job possible) and got Nico in 2 laps. If the FI was not around having his back, Nico would've ended up 4th instead of 2nd with few laps to spare (2 RBs, 1 Williams..assuming the m**** in the Williams remembers how to overtake). This equates to LUCK. Not phenomenal driving, is this difficult to see?

Put any other driver in Nico's place, you drive with problems but you have a car suited best to your needs in protecting your position...again, how do you quantify this as "phenomenal driving?

[CookinFlat6]

This is a massive moment for the championship. Had some luck but also some solid driving from Rosberg.

Gonna be hard for Hamilton to overcome that.

Solid driving from Rosberg? The guy was completely rattled with Lewis behind him, and again stayed ahead due to some serious luck'

As far as hard for Lewis to overcome, its only 3 wins in a row to claw back the deficit

It makes the title a lot more interesting anyway

I think that's unfair - I thought Rosberg's move at the start was disgraceful, and extending his lead by cutting the chicane was very poor, but the way he managed his car through what should have been a terminal problem for 30+ laps to only miss out on the win by a whisker was phenomenal. I really don't understand without bias how it can be viewed any other way...

But you have just confirmed that he was only in that position to nurse his car home ahead of ultimately slower cars because of at least 2 questionable plays - you called one disgraceful and the other poor

yet you dont understand how he cant be deemed to have driven a soild RACE (race is over 70 laps)

And you tallk about bias?

Are you serious?

Yes I'm serious. I'm completely unbiased. Two questionable moves at two corners over the course of a 70 lap race with 600+ corners does not equal a poor entire race. I'm going to repeat - Rosberg overall drove a VERY good race under tremendous pressure from BOTH mechanics and competitors.

Ah so its a very good race now? downgraded from phenomenal? So its with the realms of reason to have another opinion that he was rattled earlier and was competent at the end and so overall not a solid race. Maybe one could even have this opinion without the bias you mentioned?

It was a phenomenal drive from the moment the problem appeared, which effectively saved him an incredibly unlikely podium. I genuinely don't think without bias it's reasonable to assert anything else.

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Ok so you are talking about 'from the moment the problem appeared' and I was responding to the Race (the whole race)

So he was phenomenal for a part of the race after he had made some potentially terminal mistakes under pressure previously in the race that allowed him to be in the position later Glad we cleared that up

[What's Burning?]

I don't think there was anything but luck being the determining factor for Rosberg. Yeah I think he drove well to defend was was an abysmal position form Merc. What I think is very rattling to Lewis fans and perhaps explains the frustration is that had Nico not made a d!ck move at the start or had he not gotten away with cutting a chicane and gaining an advantage when he was under the most pressure from Lewis, perhaps Lewis would not have seen the brake failure on his car since it was clear that it could be "managed" and salvaged. Not a 1-2 for Mercedes but perhaps a 2-3. So once again Nico's "good performance" comes at the expense of his team mate. It was Nico asking for how Lewis had his brake bias set... so the sharing of information is clearly only benefiting one driver.

[Big Azza]

I think the first lap defence was harsh but fair, Lewis would probably have done the same I think, and I don't see it as too different to Bahrain etc.

Cutting the cichane, honestly I think he got away with that one, if he had made the corner I'm fairly sure he would have been passed.

Still, really tough on Marussia, I think Chilton's defensiveness spoke volumes, that'll teach Bianchi to score points

How's this? If Rosberg had've attempted to cook his brakes going into that chicane - he might have retired before Hamilton did, or at least retired as well due to the strain extra damage that would've caught up with him come the mechanical issue later....

So it was probably a GOOD thing that Rosberg missed the chicane and another example of some fortune.

BOOOM!!!!!

To be honest I am not trying to detract from Rosberg's win. I'm with Allan on this one. That was a world champion quality drive when the odds were stacked against him. On top of that, luck is always a very important component of a championship. I estimate it often contributes to about 30 per cent of the championship?

30 percent luck, 60 per cent car reliability, 10 per cent driver skill?

Maybe a little bit different to that... 10% luck, 10% skill, 80% reliable car... What do you guys think?

[zurich_allan]

God, the bias here and intolerance of reason (ie aggressive / sarcastic responses) is a real indicator of why the forum is so quiet these days.

[Frontrunner]

Daniel Ricciardo! get in there!

[CookinFlat6]

God, the bias here and intolerance of reason (ie aggressive / sarcastic responses) is a real indicator of why the forum is so quiet these days.

this started with you replying to a post of mine with an aggressive/sarcastic response

I think that's unfair - I thought Rosberg's move at the start was disgraceful, and extending his lead by cutting the chicane was very poor, but the way he managed his car through what should have been a terminal problem for 30+ laps to only miss out on the win by a whisker was phenomenal. I really don't understand without bias how it can be viewed any other way...

So you initially show intolerance for my opinion and I show intolerance for your intolerance of my opinion

and the result is you pulling the handbag out?

Ok

[Denthúl]

Well, that's certainly not the result I was expecting before the lights went out. Happy to see Daniel get a win.

[Hammer278]

God, the bias here and intolerance of reason (ie aggressive / sarcastic responses) is a real indicator of why the forum is so quiet these days.

Hey man is asking a question really considered 'aggressive'? It's all text here, no punches or kicks involved.

[zurich_allan]

God, the bias here and intolerance of reason (ie aggressive / sarcastic responses) is a real indicator of why the forum is so quiet these days.

this started with you replying to a post of mine with an aggressive/sarcastic response

I think that's unfair - I thought Rosberg's move at the start was disgraceful, and extending his lead by cutting the chicane was very poor, but the way he managed his car through what should have been a terminal problem for 30+ laps to only miss out on the win by a whisker was phenomenal. I really don't understand without bias how it can be viewed any other way...

So you initially show intolerance for my opinion and I show intolerance for your intolerance of my opinion

and the result is you pulling the handbag out?

Ok

There's nothing aggressive or sarcastic there.

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[What's Burning?]

Okay boys, let's cut it out.

[CookinFlat6]

God, the bias here and intolerance of reason (ie aggressive / sarcastic responses) is a real indicator of why the forum is so quiet these days.

Hey man is asking a question really considered 'aggressive'? It's all text here, no punches or kicks involved.

'I can call your opinion unfair, I can call you biased if however you comeback and disagree, I will feel I have been aggressively intolerated'

[CookinFlat6]

Okay boys, let's cut it out.

Apologies WB, just read and understood

[overboost]

This is a massive moment for the championship. Had some luck but also some solid driving from Rosberg.

Gonna be hard for Hamilton to overcome that.

Solid driving from Rosberg? The guy was completely rattled with Lewis behind him, and again stayed ahead due to some serious luck'

As far as hard for Lewis to overcome, its only 3 wins in a row to claw back the deficit

It makes the title a lot more interesting anyway

Hard to fathom how Hamilton is managing to lose the championship to Rosberg who has never been regarded as a top flight driver. There are the reliability issues but Rosberg is outperforming him at the moment. Two poles and two wins in a row?! And he does it at Montreal of all places - Hamilton's track.

Hamilton must get the momentum back right away.


Excellent race, lots of action and the passing even with DRS wasn't that easy, just about right. Looks like the 'formula' was designed to fit this track perfectly.

And Montreal is so beautiful, perfect location, perfect track, and great racing. Best race of the year so far.