All equal at McLaren ?

Re: All equal at McLaren ?#37822

By racechick - 30 Mar 08, 22:15

- 30 Mar 08, 22:15#37822

You're wrong (ouch I bet that hurt). Absolutely 100% wrong on when the deal was brockered. It was definately done last season beforw Heiki was on the scene. I cant be so sure on exactly how it was worded but I know it involved winning something over the next three years-last year being the first of those thre years. I have dug around but all I can find are a couple of forum posts saying pretty much what i said.

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Re: All equal at McLaren ?#37825

By Mikep99 - 30 Mar 08, 22:34

- 30 Mar 08, 22:34#37825

racechick wrote:You're wrong (ouch I bet that hurt). Absolutely 100% wrong on when the deal was brockered. It was definately done last season beforw Heiki was on the scene. I cant be so sure on exactly how it was worded but I know it involved winning something over the next three years-last year being the first of those thre years. I have dug around but all I can find are a couple of forum posts saying pretty much what i said.

No it does not hurt. My wife always tell's me I am wrong. Not to mention the McLaren fans

Racechick I am not saying what your telling me is not true but I only have an opinion on what I see & not what someone tells me.
But if your 100% Absoulutely sure I am sure it won't be to hard for you to find something.

But don’t look to hard because you know I am not that gullible to believe everything is 100% above board at McLaren

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Re: All equal at McLaren ?#37868

By bud - 31 Mar 08, 07:09

- 31 Mar 08, 07:09#37868

Mikep99 wrote:
racechick wrote:You're wrong (ouch I bet that hurt). Absolutely 100% wrong on when the deal was brockered. It was definately done last season beforw Heiki was on the scene. I cant be so sure on exactly how it was worded but I know it involved winning something over the next three years-last year being the first of those thre years. I have dug around but all I can find are a couple of forum posts saying pretty much what i said.
No it does not hurt. My wife always tell's me I am wrong. Not to mention the McLaren fans

Racechick I am not saying what your telling me is not true but I only have an opinion on what I see & not what someone tells me.
But if your 100% Absoulutely sure I am sure it won't be to hard for you to find something.

But don’t look to hard because you know I am not that gullible to believe everything is 100% above board at McLaren

hehe youre not gullible but you take this snippet on the web as 100% accurate

cmon listen to your wife Mike

Re: All equal at McLaren ?#37931

By Mikep99 - 31 Mar 08, 21:18

- 31 Mar 08, 21:18#37931

bud wrote:
Mikep99 wrote:
racechick wrote:You're wrong (ouch I bet that hurt). Absolutely 100% wrong on when the deal was brockered. It was definately done last season beforw Heiki was on the scene. I cant be so sure on exactly how it was worded but I know it involved winning something over the next three years-last year being the first of those thre years. I have dug around but all I can find are a couple of forum posts saying pretty much what i said.
No it does not hurt. My wife always tell's me I am wrong. Not to mention the McLaren fans

Racechick I am not saying what your telling me is not true but I only have an opinion on what I see & not what someone tells me.
But if your 100% Absoulutely sure I am sure it won't be to hard for you to find something.

But don’t look to hard because you know I am not that gullible to believe everything is 100% above board at McLaren
hehe youre not gullible but you take this snippet on the web as 100% accurate cmon listen to your wife Mike

Where have I said that bud. You will find I said nothing of the sort mate.

Sorry I got to go now the missus is calling

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Re: All equal at McLaren ?#37934

By deMuRe - 31 Mar 08, 21:36

- 31 Mar 08, 21:36#37934

Irrespective of when the deal was done, if it were all things equal at McLaren that offer should have been extended to HK when he joined.

It wasn't, I garantee you Heiki knows he will be LH's rear gunner this season...

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Re: All equal at McLaren ?#37937

By McLaren Fan - 31 Mar 08, 22:03

- 31 Mar 08, 22:03#37937

deMuRe wrote:Irrespective of when the deal was done, if it were all things equal at McLaren that offer should have been extended to HK when he joined.

It wasn't, I garantee you Heiki knows he will be LH's rear gunner this season...

DeMuRe, you really have got to stop presenting your opinion as it were a fact. It isn't.

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Re: All equal at McLaren ?#37940

By racechick - 31 Mar 08, 22:14

- 31 Mar 08, 22:14#37940

deMuRe wrote:Irrespective of when the deal was done, if it were all things equal at McLaren that offer should have been extended to HK when he joined.

It wasn't, I garantee you Heiki knows he will be LH's rear gunner this season...

Rubbish! You misunderstand the situation. Why should a private deal be extended to a third party?

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Re: All equal at McLaren ?#37942

By darwin dali - 31 Mar 08, 22:17

- 31 Mar 08, 22:17#37942

racechick wrote:
deMuRe wrote:Irrespective of when the deal was done, if it were all things equal at McLaren that offer should have been extended to HK when he joined.

It wasn't, I garantee you Heiki knows he will be LH's rear gunner this season...
Rubbish! You misunderstand the situation. Why should a private deal be extended to a third party?

Because it's not private?

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Re: All equal at McLaren ?#37948

By racechick - 31 Mar 08, 22:29

- 31 Mar 08, 22:29#37948

darwin_dali wrote:
racechick wrote:
deMuRe wrote:Irrespective of when the deal was done, if it were all things equal at McLaren that offer should have been extended to HK when he joined.

It wasn't, I garantee you Heiki knows he will be LH's rear gunner this season...
Rubbish! You misunderstand the situation. Why should a private deal be extended to a third party?
Because it's not private?

It was between two people.

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Abe Lincoln

Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln

Re: All equal at McLaren ?#37949

By deMuRe - 31 Mar 08, 22:32

- 31 Mar 08, 22:32#37949

McLaren Fan wrote:
deMuRe wrote:Irrespective of when the deal was done, if it were all things equal at McLaren that offer should have been extended to HK when he joined.

It wasn't, I garantee you Heiki knows he will be LH's rear gunner this season...
DeMuRe, you really have got to stop presenting your opinion as it were a fact. It isn't.

Didn't you once lecture me on reading between the lines?

During the whole McCheaters ordeal you plasted your 'reading between the lines' logic in a vain attempt to justify McLaren's actions and proclaim they are being treated unfairly by the FIA.

Did you not see the interview with Heikki and Lewis at the start of the season on ITV? Heikki is Lewis' rear gunner, it's plain to see...

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Re: All equal at McLaren ?#37951

By deMuRe - 31 Mar 08, 22:34

- 31 Mar 08, 22:34#37951

racechick wrote:
darwin_dali wrote:
Because it's not private?
It was between two people.

Oh OK, let's ignore the technical dossier that was given to McLaren last year, because it was 'private'....

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Re: All equal at McLaren ?#37952

By racechick - 31 Mar 08, 22:35

- 31 Mar 08, 22:35#37952

deMuRe wrote:
McLaren Fan wrote:
deMuRe wrote:Irrespective of when the deal was done, if it were all things equal at McLaren that offer should have been extended to HK when he joined.

It wasn't, I garantee you Heiki knows he will be LH's rear gunner this season...
DeMuRe, you really have got to stop presenting your opinion as it were a fact. It isn't.
Didn't you once lecture me on reading between the lines?

During the whole McCheaters ordeal you plasted your 'reading between the lines' logic in a vain attempt to justify McLaren's actions and proclaim they are being treated unfairly by the FIA.

Did you not see the interview with Heikki and Lewis at the start of the season on ITV? Heikki is Lewis' rear gunner, it's plain to see...

No he's not.

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Abe Lincoln

Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln

Re: All equal at McLaren ?#37962

By darwin dali - 31 Mar 08, 23:01

- 31 Mar 08, 23:01#37962

racechick wrote: It was between two people.

Was. Now it's public domain. And kinda embarrassing for them because it feeds right into their perceived hypocrisy about equal treatment, equal status and so on of their drivers.

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Re: All equal at McLaren ?#37965

By texasmr2 - 31 Mar 08, 23:09

- 31 Mar 08, 23:09#37965

I see it as a verbal agreement/contract between two individual's before the third party, HK, was even a consideration or in the picture so honestly what's all the fuss about, am I missing something I dont think so?

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Re: All equal at McLaren ?#37970

By Mikep99 - 31 Mar 08, 23:24

- 31 Mar 08, 23:24#37970

racechick wrote:
deMuRe wrote:Heikki is Lewis' rear gunner, it's plain to see...
No he's not.

Your right I think he is rear - side - above - below - infact any which way gunner.

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But its only my opinion, but it holds as much water as yours thats for sure.

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