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By 1Lemon
#376798
and Di Resta is not know to be the fastest guy on the grid!


That's because he's second fastest.

Also I agree there is some engine/kers mapping or something but I don't believe that they wouldn't put it on Webber's car, just that it suits sebs driving style more.
By CookinFlat6
#376801
Newey cars are tightly packaged

Seb is a different size to Webber

Optimising for 1 driver by definition means it works less well on the other

So you would expect more problems on the second choice package. And as you will know there can only be 1 WDC

Therefore why not have the second driver slower but with less problems instead of try perfect the 'trick' on both

Then we also know that when the car is not optimised for Seb he has been matched by Webber

And then there is the cost of winning the wcc by more points than necessary

What say you to these points?
By What's Burning?
#376804
Also I agree there is some engine/kers mapping or something but I don't believe that they wouldn't put it on Webber's car, just that it suits sebs driving style more.

Did you hear how Webber's car sounded in Singapore and how Vettel's car sounded?

We'll find out more in the months ahead. In 2014 the blown anything will be a thing of the past. (or at least I hope) but given this, I'm sure a lot of cars on the grid will be sounding quite differently while accelerating out of low and mid speed corners.
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By 1Lemon
#376809
And then there is the cost of winning the wcc by more points than necessary


I know this post isn't dedicated towards me, but what costs?
By What's Burning?
#376812
And then there is the cost of winning the wcc by more points than necessary


I know this post isn't dedicated towards me, but what costs?

Teams have to pay the FiA a certain dollar amount for each WCC point scored. The amount is agreed upon at the begining of the season, and I'm not sure what's done with the money, but it's designed to make the high scoring teams pay more, perhaps putting that money towards some low scoring team's benefit?
By LRW
#376813
And then there is the cost of winning the wcc by more points than necessary


I know this post isn't dedicated towards me, but what costs?

Teams have to pay the FiA a certain dollar amount for each WCC point scored. The amount is agreed upon at the begining of the season, and I'm not sure what's done with the money, but it's designed to make the high scoring teams pay more, perhaps putting that money towards some low scoring team's benefit?


The constructors' champions will have to pay a base $500,000 US plus $6000 US per point gained in the standings.

Every other team that wants to enter will have to pay the basic $500,000 US plus $5000 US per point.
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By 1Lemon
#376814
I thought they won money for winning the WCC, hence why all the pundits keep going on about how teams are aiming for that as it nets more cash.
By LRW
#376815
I thought they won money for winning the WCC, hence why all the pundits keep going on about how teams are aiming for that as it nets more cash.


This is entry fee for next year. So the numbers above are the cost of entering in 2014.
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By 1Lemon
#376818
I thought they won money for winning the WCC, hence why all the pundits keep going on about how teams are aiming for that as it nets more cash.


This is entry fee for next year. So the numbers above are the cost of entering in 2014.


Oh yeah I remember that it's added onto the next entry fee now.

Man that must have really hurt the mid field teams when they changed the point structure.
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By acosmichippo
#376845
Sorry for the late reply, but one thing the TC (or whatever it is) deniers are also forgetting is that Vettel himself has even said they have something special that no one else does. This was included in the OP by spanky:

"We were playing around quite a lot with it in practice, but the first time it worked was in the race... I was quite confident other people would never figure out how we did it... We are pretty proud of the system we have because other people will never figure out how we’ve done it."

Unless he's blatantly lying or was misquoted, what else could that mean?
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By spankyham
#376846
Sorry for the late reply, but one thing the TC (or whatever it is) deniers are also forgetting is that Vettel himself has even said they have something special that no one else does. This was included in the OP by spanky:

"We were playing around quite a lot with it in practice, but the first time it worked was in the race... I was quite confident other people would never figure out how we did it... We are pretty proud of the system we have because other people will never figure out how we’ve done it."

Unless he's blatantly lying or was misquoted, what else could that mean?


He was making it to be an obvious joke. However, it really reminded me of a couple of seasons ago when some accusations were put out about RB having ride height adjust-ability and they made the joke about pulling a secret lever. And then last season an illegal ride height adjuster was found when an official spotted one of the RB engineers manipulating it in parc ferme in Canada.
By What's Burning?
#376855
The best hiding place is always out in plain sight, anyway I don't think the TC deniers have even addressed or acknowledged that "fact", so stay on topic will ya' Spanky?!?
By CookinFlat6
#376872
The best example of flaunting their 'against the spirit of the rules interpretation' is ofcourse the flapping wings.

'We are not allowed to have flapping wings, ours flap, but you cannot measure it at 180mph, so there, we are not cheating, its just Sebs greatness'
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By Jabberwocky
#376894
And then there is the cost of winning the wcc by more points than necessary


I know this post isn't dedicated towards me, but what costs?

Teams have to pay the FiA a certain dollar amount for each WCC point scored. The amount is agreed upon at the begining of the season, and I'm not sure what's done with the money, but it's designed to make the high scoring teams pay more, perhaps putting that money towards some low scoring team's benefit?

I believe the drivers have the same for their super licence

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