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#373748
ptiberio wrote:Massa out of Ferrari = World Manufactures Championship for Ferrari :clap:
Well, Ferrari will need a much better car than they've had in recent years, for a start. 2008 seems a long while ago now. (Same for McLaren).
#373771
LewEngBridewell wrote:
ptiberio wrote:Massa out of Ferrari = World Manufactures Championship for Ferrari :clap:
Well, Ferrari will need a much better car than they've had in recent years, for a start. 2008 seems a long while ago now. (Same for McLaren).
Ferrari needs a pair of drivers that would score points within 10-15% of each other. If Massa scored points to be within 10-15% of what Alonzo has scored in the past couple of year Ferrari would have won championships

It's driver consistancy not crying is what wins championships
#373778
LewEngBridewell wrote:
ptiberio wrote:Massa out of Ferrari = World Manufactures Championship for Ferrari :clap:
Well, Ferrari will need a much better car than they've had in recent years, for a start. 2008 seems a long while ago now. (Same for McLaren).
Near enough is never good enough, however, 2010 and last year were very close things. With the amount of damage on Seb's car and pointing in the opposite direction just after the start I don't think anyone would have been surprised had he not been able to continue.

Perhaps a "little" better might do the trick.
#373780
spankyham wrote:
LewEngBridewell wrote:
ptiberio wrote:Massa out of Ferrari = World Manufactures Championship for Ferrari :clap:
Well, Ferrari will need a much better car than they've had in recent years, for a start. 2008 seems a long while ago now. (Same for McLaren).
Near enough is never good enough, however, 2010 and last year were very close things. With the amount of damage on Seb's car and pointing in the opposite direction just after the start I don't think anyone would have been surprised had he not been able to continue.

Perhaps a "little" better might do the trick.
sometimes it's the I'd rather be lucky than good saying that wins it.
#373781
What's Burning? wrote: sometimes it's the I'd rather be lucky than good saying that wins it.
Indeed :yes:
#373782
spankyham wrote:Near enough is never good enough, however, 2010 and last year were very close things. With the amount of damage on Seb's car and pointing in the opposite direction just after the start I don't think anyone would have been surprised had he not been able to continue.

Perhaps a "little" better might do the trick.
Yup!! And, perhaps a "little" help from Lady Luck will be the icing on the cake!
#373783
What's Burning? wrote:
spankyham wrote:
LewEngBridewell wrote:
ptiberio wrote:Massa out of Ferrari = World Manufactures Championship for Ferrari :clap:
Well, Ferrari will need a much better car than they've had in recent years, for a start. 2008 seems a long while ago now. (Same for McLaren).
Near enough is never good enough, however, 2010 and last year were very close things. With the amount of damage on Seb's car and pointing in the opposite direction just after the start I don't think anyone would have been surprised had he not been able to continue.

Perhaps a "little" better might do the trick.
sometimes it's the I'd rather be lucky than good saying that wins it.
Copy cat!! :P

(( :rofl: ))
#373827
sagi58 wrote:
spankyham wrote:Near enough is never good enough, however, 2010 and last year were very close things. With the amount of damage on Seb's car and pointing in the opposite direction just after the start I don't think anyone would have been surprised had he not been able to continue.

Perhaps a "little" better might do the trick.
Yup!! And, perhaps a "little" help from Lady Luck will be the icing on the cake!
:confused: All depends how "Lady Luck" looks? :flowers:
#373848
Massa eyeing vacant Lotus seat for 2014

Felipe Massa: "In my opinion, Lotus has a competitive car, which is what I want"


Massa will be replaced by Kimi Raikkonen at Ferrari next season, opening up the possibility of a straight swap next year. Lotus has confirmed it is in talks with a number of drivers about 2014 and will make a decision "shortly".

Massa said Lotus appeals to him as the most competitive option remaining on the grid.

"We are negotiating," he told Globo Esporte. "In my opinion, Lotus has a competitive car, which is what I want.

"We are having many conversations to try to find a way, not only for me but for Lotus, to continue with a good car."

Massa revealed he had also talked to McLaren, but said Lotus is currently his best option.

"I've had contact with McLaren but I cannot judge, it's hard to say," he added. "With Lotus, the contact was very good."

Last week Massa's manager Nicolas Todt told Canal Plus that Massa is determined to land a deal at a competitive team next year.

"He never would go to a smaller team to be second driver," Todt said. "We need to find a car that can challenge at the front in F1. The best place available is undoubtedly the one left by Raikkonen at Lotus."

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Won't it be a HOOT if he gets the Lotus seat and Lotus do a Mercedes next year and Ferrari do a McLaren. Ok unlikely, but the 1% chance of it happening might just spur Massa on eyeing a fresh challenge...away from the environment he's been in for donkey years...as a donkey.
#373849
not a bad fit in my opinion. but damn it man, does anyone mean anything they say? hard to take the guy seriously when he said he'd not driver for a lesser team than Ferrari.
#373852
sagi58 wrote:
ptiberio wrote::confused: All depends how "Lady Luck" looks? :flowers:
Careful, even the cutest little lady could be hiding something: Image
Nothing wrong if she also has a little "devil" in her :D
#373853
Hammer278 wrote:Massa eyeing vacant Lotus seat for 2014

Felipe Massa: "In my opinion, Lotus has a competitive car, which is what I want"


Massa will be replaced by Kimi Raikkonen at Ferrari next season, opening up the possibility of a straight swap next year. Lotus has confirmed it is in talks with a number of drivers about 2014 and will make a decision "shortly".

Massa said Lotus appeals to him as the most competitive option remaining on the grid.

"We are negotiating," he told Globo Esporte. "In my opinion, Lotus has a competitive car, which is what I want.

"We are having many conversations to try to find a way, not only for me but for Lotus, to continue with a good car."

Massa revealed he had also talked to McLaren, but said Lotus is currently his best option.

"I've had contact with McLaren but I cannot judge, it's hard to say," he added. "With Lotus, the contact was very good."

Last week Massa's manager Nicolas Todt told Canal Plus that Massa is determined to land a deal at a competitive team next year.

"He never would go to a smaller team to be second driver," Todt said. "We need to find a car that can challenge at the front in F1. The best place available is undoubtedly the one left by Raikkonen at Lotus."

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Won't it be a HOOT if he gets the Lotus seat and Lotus do a Mercedes next year and Ferrari do a McLaren. Ok unlikely, but the 1% chance of it happening might just spur Massa on eyeing a fresh challenge...away from the environment he's been in for donkey years...as a donkey.
I find it a hoot that Massa is "negotiating" in the media!!

Tells me that Massa :violinist: is desperate :cry: for a ride. A driver who is wanted doesn't "negotiate" in the media as he and the team would do it behind the scenes :grouphug: until they have a deal. I also read today that Massa is talking to McLaren.

I beleive it's all a ploy to get a seat at Williams
#373854
ptiberio wrote:
sagi58 wrote:
ptiberio wrote::confused: All depends how "Lady Luck" looks? :flowers:
Careful, even the cutest little lady could be hiding something: Image
Nothing wrong if she also has a little "devil" in her :D

But normally the "devil" is attached to somebody else.
#373873
I like the sound of Massa putting the wind-up Alonso! :thumbup:
GrandPrix.com wrote:Massa in contact with McLaren

Felipe Massa has revealed he also has an eye on a race seat at McLaren.

The Brazilian told the broadcaster O Globo that he will not be playing a supportive role for Ferrari 'number 1' Fernando Alonso for the balance of his career with the fabled Italian team.

"No, I won't be doing that," said the 32-year-old, who has been told he is being replaced by former teammate Kimi Raikkonen after November's 2013 finale.

"I'm going to attack," Massa promised.

He is hoping that attack is the springboard to another top car, having already ruled out continuing his career with a back-of-the-grid team.

"We're negotiating with Lotus and it's going well," said Massa. "They have a competitive car, which is what I want.

"We are also in contact with McLaren, but this is more difficult to judge," he added, referring to the British team that is yet to announce its current drivers, Jenson Button and Sergio Perez, are definitely staying put in 2014.

One driver not clinging onto his similarly-long F1 career is Mark Webber, who is swapping his Red Bull cockpit for a Porsche prototype for 2014.

The 37-year-old Australian told F1 Racing magazine that finding the right time to stop is a difficult task for any sportsman.

"I'm probably leaving F1 a year too soon but with the (regulation) changes next season and the opportunity to join Porsche, it's the best move for me," said Webber.
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