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[texasmr2]

They may accept your apology but they will never accept the screwing over of McLaren last year

Nothing personal but this is the attitude that every other F1 fan on this forum who is not a 100% McLaren supporter is having trouble understanding? I know everyone is gonna point finger's at the FIA but why should the McLaren mass's feel they were screwed when they were caught redhanded in breach of the rule's, that's basically what this whole entire issue is about.

Maybe it's just me but as you can see I can admit when I'm wrong or out of line but that is not the case with the McLaren fan's and that's what we are having trouble understanding? Please enlighten everyone as to why McLaren should be forgiven?

[bud]

Maybe its the fact that the Toyota case years previously wasn't even looked at by the FIA

Maybe its the trial by media in which Ferrari actively slandered McLaren

Maybe its the draconian punishment handed out and Max Mosely personally set on punishing McLaren as harsh as possible from the start

Maybe its the non punishment to Renault after a precidant had been set with McLaren.

Maybe its the way the Italian prosicutors and police have handled things as seen just today

and that last comment why should McLaren be forgiven. they got punished what more as a Ferrari fan do you want them to do? aside anyone who knows F1 knows this isnt the first time engineers have shared information and it wont be the last. McLarens been a scapegoat i just hope the FIA stays consistent in further cases!

[texasmr2]

Maybe its the fact that the Toyota case years previously wasn't even looked at by the FIA

You just proved my point mate, why are you dwelling on the past?

Maybe its the trial by media in which Ferrari actively slandered McLaren.

My god why are you even taking into consideration what those shark's say?

Maybe its the draconian punishment handed out and Max Mosely personally set on punishing McLaren as harsh as possible from the start

Strictly an opinion unless you have FIA insider connection's.

Maybe its the non punishment to Renault after a precidant had been set with McLaren.

This I agree with totally.

Maybe its the way the Italian prosicutors and police have handled things as seen just today

I see it as trying to get to the core of the issue at hand and since this new's is less than 24hr's old, to us, it's still just mere speculation.

And that last comment why should McLaren be forgiven they got punished what more as a Ferrari fan do you want them to do?

I dont want, need or expect anything else but the crying and whining to stop!

[AKR]

Sookie sookie la la, they shouldn't have cheated...

Your posts are nothing more than tragicomedy.

and yours are not?
Perhaps I should refer you to as "Sveti McLaren Fan" Sveti = Saint. This is because everything you say is always correct, always....

[AKR]

Corrupt Italian bar stewards...... timing again just before the season opener after McLaren topped days 1-2 of the last testing meet.


like i said before the only court case where the facts and truths will come out is in Britain.

and in Britain they are all honest Saints of course....

[texasmr2]

and in Britain they are all honest Saints of course....

No poo god forbid anyone contridict's them as they got all the straight insider poop!

[bud]

Corrupt Italian bar stewards...... timing again just before the season opener after McLaren topped days 1-2 of the last testing meet.


like i said before the only court case where the facts and truths will come out is in Britain.

and in Britain they are all honest Saints of course....

the judicial system in the UK makes the way Italians run things look like that of a 3rd world country

[bud]

Maybe its the fact that the Toyota case years previously wasn't even looked at by the FIA

You just proved my point mate, why are you dwelling on the past?

Consistency is why, FiA cant pick and choose espionage cases to get involved with!!

Maybe its the trial by media in which Ferrari actively slandered McLaren.

My god why are you even taking into consideration what those shark's say

No but Ferrari using the media in that manner instead of doing things the right way

Maybe its the draconian punishment handed out and Max Mosely personally set on punishing McLaren as harsh as possible from the start

Strictly an opinion unless you have FIA insider connection's.

biggest punishment in sporting history over what a couple of emails?? remember McLaren were found guilty of possession in the first trial but no proof they used it. second trial was over emails but still no evidence of ferrari technology in the mp4 22
hey if McLaren made an exact copy of the F2007 im all for that punishment

Maybe its the non punishment to Renault after a precidant had been set with McLaren.

This I agree with totally.

yes one would say McLaren got away with nothing in the first trial but after the second trial the precedent had been set

Maybe its the way the Italian prosicutors and police have handled things as seen just today

I see it as trying to get to the core of the issue at hand and since this new's is less than 24hr's old, to us, it's still just mere speculation.

McLaren wouldnt have made a statement if it was mere speculation.

And that last comment why should McLaren be forgiven they got punished what more as a Ferrari fan do you want them to do?

I dont want, need or expect anything else but the crying and whining to stop!

im not crying nor whinging im standing up for what i see

[AKR]

Corrupt Italian bar stewards...... timing again just before the season opener after McLaren topped days 1-2 of the last testing meet.


like i said before the only court case where the facts and truths will come out is in Britain.

and in Britain they are all honest Saints of course....

the judicial system in the UK makes the way Italians run things look like that of a 3rd world country

and you have been to Italy to be able to tell me this Mister?

[bud]

friends who have been to Italy and lived in Italy that tell dodgy stories of the cops over there.

[texasmr2]

Now this is a productive and fun debate bud, I enjoy this kind of exchange of opinion's .

[bud]

yes emotions get in the way at times meh we love each other still

[darwin dali]

yes emotions get in the way at times meh we love each other still

Love is in the air, ooouhhh, love is in THE air...

[darwin dali]

friends who have been to Italy and lived in Italy that tell dodgy stories of the cops over there.

First you talk about the judicial system, now you're talking about the executive branch - make up your mind.

[bud]

friends who have been to Italy and lived in Italy that tell dodgy stories of the cops over there.

First you talk about the judicial system, now you're talking about the executive branch - make up your mind.

dont twist words