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From autosport.com:

McLaren evidence useful, say police

By Mark Meadows Thursday, February 28th 2008, 18:53 GMT

Useful evidence connected to Formula One's spy scandal has been collected from McLaren which shows where responsibilities lie, Italian police said on Thursday.

McLaren executives were questioned by Italian investigators in Britain on Wednesday as part of a legal probe into the team obtaining Ferrari technical information last year.

Material taken from the team "will fit into the ample picture of evidence" from which "clearly emerges the responsibilities of the management and some technicians at a high level in McLaren", a police statement said.

Giuseppe Tibis, a prosecutor in Ferrari's home province of Modena, launched the legal investigation which led to Wednesday's events.

Police said they went to McLaren Technology Centre and the homes of McLaren team principal Ron Dennis, chief executive Martin Whitmarsh, engineering director Paddy Lowe and senior employees Jonathan Neale and Rob Taylor.

McLaren said on Wednesday the police "were completely satisfied with the co-operation they have received".

The team suspended chief designer Mike Coughlan in July after a dossier of Ferrari technical information was found at his home in England.

Ferrari, who won both titles last season after McLaren were fined a record $100 million (USD) and stripped of all their constructors' points, have accused their now-dismissed engineer Nigel Stepney of sending him the material.

Tibis has already interviewed McLaren's former driver Fernando Alonso, the double world champion who left for Renault in December, and Spanish test driver Pedro de la Rosa.

Stepney, who is also accused of sabotage by Ferrari but denies the charge, met the prosecutor in Italy last week.

McLaren deny Italian police claims

By Pablo Elizalde Friday, February 29th 2008, 14:51 GMT

The McLaren team have slammed as "grossly inaccurate and misleading" claims from the Italian police that they had found evidence that showed the responsibility of certain members of the team in the spying affair.

Top McLaren executives were questioned by Italian magistrates on Wednesday as part of a legal investigation into Formula One's spying scandal.

The police said in a statement that they had found evidence from which "clearly emerges the responsibilities of the management and some technicians at a high level in McLaren."

McLaren said on Friday, however, that the statement was misleading, as the Italian police were yet to have access to the material taken from the McLaren Technology Centre and the homes of the top executives.

"McLaren Racing wishes to record its extreme displeasure with the wording of a statement that the Italian Police are reported to have made yesterday," said McLaren in a statement.

"If those reports accurately reflect the police statement, the statement is grossly inaccurate and misleading.

"The reports incorrectly claim that the searches produced material which clearly shows the responsibility of certain people at McLaren Racing.

"In fact, the Italian police have not yet even been given access to any of the material taken, nor have they even started to review that material. We would be extremely surprised if the review of the documentation reveals anything which has not already been disclosed as a result of the extensive investigations already carried out.

"McLaren Racing believes that due process needs to be respected and that the conduct of an investigation process should not be construed adversely or used for publicity purposes.

"It should be noted that none of the extensive searches or investigations completed to date have produced any evidence that the Ferrari documents which Mr Nigel Stepney handed over to Mr Michael Coughlan were ever passed to anyone else at McLaren Racing or used on the McLaren Formula One car.

"McLaren Racing will continue to co-operate with Surrey Police regarding any further searches and enquiries they are required to undertake. McLaren Racing wishes to thank Surrey Police for the helpful and courteous manner in which they have undertaken the process."

McLaren to involve Home Office in spy row

By Pablo Elizalde Friday, February 29th 2008, 15:27 GMT

McLaren plan to contact Britain's Home Office over their concerns about the way the Italian police is handling the latest developments in Formula One's spying affair.

McLaren issued a statement on Friday denying claims in an Italian police statement that there was evidence showing the responsibility of certain members of the British squad in the spying row.

The team claimed the statement from the Modena police was "grossly inaccurate and misleading".

A McLaren spokesperson has revealed the team plan to contact Home Office, the British government department dealing with law and order, to inform them about their concerns on how the Italian police are treating the affair.

"In the light of this type of publicity, which has apparently been generated by the Modena police, perhaps people can now understand our caution in engaging in such a process with them," said the spokesperson.

"Indeed, we intend to contact the Home Office to convey our concerns regarding the conduct of the entire matter."


Italian bar stewards. :roll:
By al4x
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its a bit ridiculous now, i agree
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By bud
#34213
Corrupt Italian bar stewards...... timing again just before the season opener after McLaren topped days 1-2 of the last testing meet.


like i said before the only court case where the facts and truths will come out is in Britain.
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By deMuRe
#34215
Sookie sookie la la, they shouldn't have cheated...
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By bud
#34219
Sookie sookie la la, they shouldn't have cheated...


eat s*** tosser
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By McLaren Fan
#34224
Sookie sookie la la, they shouldn't have cheated...

Your posts are nothing more than tragicomedy.
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By texasmr2
#34225
The two of you need your own seperate forum :lol: ! I'm officailly renaming the two of you 'Ron Dennis #1' and 'Ron Dennis #2'!
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By bud
#34228
The two of you need your own seperate forum :lol: ! I'm officailly renaming the two of you 'Ron Dennis #1' and 'Ron Dennis #2'!


and ill rename you "yes man"
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By McLaren Fan
#34232
Gregg operates a twin-track approach. One hand he says Ferrari-FIA are an unprofessional disgrace and that Ecclestone is whoring Formula One and on the other hand he criticises McLaren and sides with the other lambs.
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By bud
#34237
Gregg operates a twin-track approach. One hand he says Ferrari-FIA are an unprofessional disgrace and that Ecclestone is whoring Formula One and on the other hand he criticises McLaren and sides with the other lambs.


exactly a "yes man" make everyone happy :roll: he wants to play with this renaming crap then lets play!

though he said when demure called me spud or what ever it was that was a no no, again yesman mentality shown :roll:
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By texasmr2
#34240
No Gregg actually see's the reality and is not a big crybaby. Yes the FIA need's an overhual but I do not criticize McLaren, it's the constant "We did nothing wrong it was all the FIA's fault" crap that has reached a point of redundance.

Anytime a member make's a comment that does not conform with the http://www.mclarenlamb.com's point of view, thank's bud:wink:, it's the crying game. Honestly when will you and bud be man enough to just move on and let the past be just what it is, the past?

exactly a "yes man" make everyone happy he wants to play with this renaming crap then lets play!

though he said when demure called me spud or what ever it was that was a no no, again yesman mentality.

I would rather be a 'yes man' than a crybaby .:wink:
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By McLaren Fan
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No Gregg actually see's the reality and is not a big crybaby. Yes the FIA need's an overhual but I do not criticize McLaren, it's the constant "We did nothing wrong it was all the FIA's fault" crap that has reached a point of redundance.

Anytime a member make's a comment that does not conform with the http://www.mclarenlamb.com's point of view, thank's bud:wink:, it's the crying game. Honestly when will you and bud be man enough to just move on and let the past be just what it is, the past?

An excellent point, Gregg - except for the fact that neither bud or I said McLaren did not make mistakes last season. So, I suppose that makes a rubbish point really.
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By bud
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No Gregg actually see's the reality and is not a big crybaby. Yes the FIA need's an overhual but I do not criticize McLaren, it's the constant "We did nothing wrong it was all the FIA's fault" crap that has reached a point of redundance.

Anytime a member make's a comment that does not conform with the http://www.mclarenlamb.com's point of view, thank's bud:wink:, it's the crying game. Honestly when will you and bud be man enough to just move on and let the past be just what it is, the past?

exactly a "yes man" make everyone happy he wants to play with this renaming crap then lets play!

though he said when demure called me spud or what ever it was that was a no no, again yesman mentality.

I would rather be a 'yes man' than a crybaby .:wink:


im putting you up on copyright breach with the continual use of lamb in a mclaren context!

and yesman by no means am i a crybaby on the contrary im having a ball here ;)
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By texasmr2
#34247
An excellent point, Gregg - except for the fact that neither bud or I said McLaren did not make mistakes last season. So, I suppose that makes a rubbish point really.

We all know you and bud never said that McLaren did not make mistake's last year it just seem's that the two of you, being McLaren fan's, do not accept the truth and are alway's looking for someone to blame except for yourselve's ie McLaren?


Hey guy's, bud and McLaren Fan and to the rest of the forum, I apologize for my out of line reference to the two of you as RD #1-#2, that was out of line. The two of you are great and very intregal member's of the forum and people I consider my friend's. I got caught up in the 'heat of battle' so to speak but that's no excuse, your both so much better than RD was. I hope you will accept my apology?
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By racechick
#34252
They may accept your apology but they will never accept the screwing over of McLaren last year

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