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[Jabberwocky]

I think any show that is futuristic will run into problems and become dated because technology evolution might not go in the same direction as the writers imagined. Where as something like wonderful life is timeless because it is set in that time.

Who remembers watching TNG and thinking "how do they touch the control panels, and it changes the buttons" or wow look at the PADDS. Now think how many of us carry touch screen devices that can get any information you want?

[LRW]

You can't argue on objective opinions. I think it sucks Jesus' balls, you on the other hand like it.
We can still love each other.....

I agree, no arguing a subjective opinion since there is no right or wrong. There is however misguided.

Seriously though, it's unfair to compare something cultural from a half century ago based on today's standards. Or we can see how BSG holds up fifty years from now.

But just because I know it was made in 60s, I'm not going to like it anymore.

It's a dull dull show to me. That ain't ever going to change.

For example, I love the film 'It's A Wonderful Life'. It was filmed in the 40s. I still love it. Classic is Classic. Time doesn't change that. If you have to say "Stark Trek is great, for something in the 60s" then it wasn't actually ever that good.

No wonder we disagree about Star Trek.

I think It's a Wonderful Life is just a plain jane feel good (escapism) movie that was hashed out to help people forget the ravages brought about by WW2. It wasn't about ground breaking or exploring substantive issues in the society of it's time. In other words it lacked the "balls". On the other hand a show that was willing to talk about racism and alternative sexuality and a socialist ideals, and sneak it all in millions of living rooms under the noses of corporate America IMO transcends it genre, and therefor it's the reason it's still popular today.

But yeah, the sets and acting were pretty abysmal, and at least you said something more mature than just it sucked balls.

See there is a life lesson for you there. If you'd said It's a Wonderful life sucked balls, instead of of all the other stuff you wrote, We'd still be in the same place, but with you have spent less energy typing.

Or you could have not commented in the first place since there was nothing you really had that contributed to the thread and saved yourself some work as well, life lessons tend to start at the beginning.

Well it was just meant to be a humorous throw away comment. I didn't realise you would get so upset. So I apologise.

[Denthúl]

Seriously though, it's unfair to compare something cultural from a half century ago based on today's standards. Or we can see how BSG holds up fifty years from now.

Wait. The discussion was about the new BSG? Disappointing.

Be warned, these links will reveal plot details.

scotty, I like Star Trek for a few reasons. Firstly, I love space, and sci-fi stuff. Secondly, there are often a number of interesting issues presented. The Measure of a Man is particularly interesting, as it explores the rights of an artificial being. There's also an episode later on in the show that is related to this, called The Offspring where Data creates a 'child' of his own and has to deal with parenting and later on her rights.

Then there's DS9 as a whole which is just...awesome.

I find the relationships that grow between the different characters on that to be quite intriguing (and in the case of Quark and Odo, absolutely hilarious - see The Way of the Warrior outside his bar, and The Circle in Odo's office ("We gotta leave! Well, I do, anyway! You can just turn into a couch!")), and watching Garak's story unfold is cool. The whole Emissary and Prophets thing did my head in from time to time though.

Perhaps the best thing in terms of development is watching Enterprise, though. Seeing the series go from happy adventure to dark, serious efforts to stop the annihilation of Earth, and how Archer starts to break the rules more and more, was something I didn't appreciate the first time I watched it (was a bit young), but having just watched the whole thing again recently, I'd say it's brilliant for the most part.

You can just skip all of Voyager though, if you ever decide to watch any more Star Trek...

[What's Burning?]

Well it was just meant to be a humorous throw away comment. I didn't realise you would get so upset. So I apologise.

I wasn't upset, more of a genuine curiosity as to your reasoning, and no mindsets need be changed but thank you for the apology, it means a lot.

[darwin dali]

Seriously though, it's unfair to compare something cultural from a half century ago based on today's standards. Or we can see how BSG holds up fifty years from now.

Wait. The discussion was about the new BSG? Disappointing.

Be warned, these links will reveal plot details.

scotty, I like Star Trek for a few reasons. Firstly, I love space, and sci-fi stuff. Secondly, there are often a number of interesting issues presented. The Measure of a Man is particularly interesting, as it explores the rights of an artificial being. There's also an episode later on in the show that is related to this, called The Offspring where Data creates a 'child' of his own and has to deal with parenting and later on her rights.

Then there's DS9 as a whole which is just...awesome.

I find the relationships that grow between the different characters on that to be quite intriguing (and in the case of Quark and Odo, absolutely hilarious - see The Way of the Warrior outside his bar, and The Circle in Odo's office ("We gotta leave! Well, I do, anyway! You can just turn into a couch!")), and watching Garak's story unfold is cool. The whole Emissary and Prophets thing did my head in from time to time though.

Perhaps the best thing in terms of development is watching Enterprise, though. Seeing the series go from happy adventure to dark, serious efforts to stop the annihilation of Earth, and how Archer starts to break the rules more and more, was something I didn't appreciate the first time I watched it (was a bit young), but having just watched the whole thing again recently, I'd say it's brilliant for the most part.

You can just skip all of Voyager though, if you ever decide to watch any more Star Trek...

Data DS9 Voyager BSG

[andrew]

I have seen it a couple of times. You know, it was entertaining enough, but what i don't understand is all the hype and fanboyism that surrounds it?

It gets a bit samey pretty quickly.

Well, i haven't seen enough episodes to judge, really.

I was hoping that comment might spur on a fan to pipe up with why they like the show so much, but it didn't work.

[stonemonkey]

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But, personally, I thought it had shoddy actors - Shoddy scripts and Shoddy effects/sets.

Well, duh! Great teatime viewing.

[Jabberwocky]

What worries me is that no one has talked about the a good sci fi show, which amazed me at the time (but has probably ages worst than TOS) Babylon 5!

Your right though the DS9 emissary thing was a bit odd. Archers rule breaking was good, I also liked how they planted the seeds of things that became the norm, things like Lt. Reed wanting an alert state that later become Red Alert.

[Denthúl]

things like Lt. Reed wanting an alert state that later become Red Alert.

That particular episode was awesome.

[What's Burning?]

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