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By Revvenge
#318646
Grosjean has crashed I believe 7 out of 12 times during the first lap this year. At some point it's no longer crashing, but recklessness, that's why the ban is being handed out.

Going from hardly any penalties or warnings to a straight-up ban is stupid though.
There's a theory that Romain's motion was affected by what Maldo did. Meaning he wouldn't have swerved right like that had Maldo not did what he did. Just saying.
Romain moved over, but stopped moving over before touching Lewis. So there would not have been a problem. Lewis could have moved over. Not that it was his responsibility to do anythign about it. There was room. Just saying. But anyway for a second they were happily motoring along together. So I think the swerve is by this point just a thing of the past. Their wheels were interlocked though and eventually those wheels touched, causing the poorly practised aerobatics. The swerve in that sense didn't cause the contact. So in that sanse Romain isn't as bad as it seems. Not quite as at fault as it would appear, but there is no one else that could reasonably share any blame. So I do agree he should take the blame because he was in that position though.

Well, let's be fair here. Maldonado was long gone by the time the lights went out and Grosjean and the rest of the field started their race. He had a lot of space ahead of him to stay to the left. I think he moved right to not get caught hanging on the outside and losing places there.

There was also not enough space on the right of Grosjean to fit a car. Hamilton could not move over. He was already on the grass and skidding because of Grosjean's action. Whether he'd have crashed into Grosjean straight away or after skidding through the grass wouldn't have made much difference. I think they touched because Hamilton had no room anymore. Having room because the wheels interlock isn't having room, it just means you're lucky to not have hit yet, but it's inevitable you will. The crash was Grosjean's fault in my opinion, it's just a matter of whether it justified a ban.
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By headless
#318666
Penalty = joke.
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By LewEngBridewell
#318683
OOOOOO ARRRRR IT'S AMBROSIAAAAAARRR

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By darwin dali
#318698
Two things that apparently the ENTIRE forum community is able to agree on time and time again;
1. FIA inconsitencies
2. Flavio in a thong.


3. HRT aren't the worst team
4.Badoer isn't the worst ever f1 driver.
5. Kobayashi is cool,
6. It's nice when Sauber do well.

I agree. :wink:


me too :)


And me! :D


I'll make it 4 of us that agree :)


Flavio in a thong is a good thing or bad?

I'm going with a bad thing since we unanimously agree... then again as soon as someone says it's a good thing we've got to remove it from the unanimously agree list.

My two cents:
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By What's Burning?
#318700
...aaaand we're all in agreement again.
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By LewEngBridewell
#318701
YYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By Big Azza
#318710
Really stoked about D'Ambrosio, and really hope he does well. However, given the limited testing he will be lucky to finish in the points.

How is this going to affect our F1 pool MOA?
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By LewEngBridewell
#318712
How is this going to affect our F1 pool MOA?


I doubt it'll have any effect. If you think D'Ambrosio will get the points, then choose him! :)

Assuming MOA includes an option for him that is. Otherwise, choosing Grosjean is clear enough.
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By headless
#318713
YESSSS!!
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By madbrad
#318765
Grosjean has crashed I believe 7 out of 12 times during the first lap this year. At some point it's no longer crashing, but recklessness, that's why the ban is being handed out.

Going from hardly any penalties or warnings to a straight-up ban is stupid though.
There's a theory that Romain's motion was affected by what Maldo did. Meaning he wouldn't have swerved right like that had Maldo not did what he did. Just saying.
Romain moved over, but stopped moving over before touching Lewis. So there would not have been a problem. Lewis could have moved over. Not that it was his responsibility to do anythign about it. There was room. Just saying. But anyway for a second they were happily motoring along together. So I think the swerve is by this point just a thing of the past. Their wheels were interlocked though and eventually those wheels touched, causing the poorly practised aerobatics. The swerve in that sense didn't cause the contact. So in that sanse Romain isn't as bad as it seems. Not quite as at fault as it would appear, but there is no one else that could reasonably share any blame. So I do agree he should take the blame because he was in that position though.

Well, let's be fair here. Maldonado was long gone by the time the lights went out and Grosjean and the rest of the field started their race. He had a lot of space ahead of him to stay to the left. I think he moved right to not get caught hanging on the outside and losing places there.

There was also not enough space on the right of Grosjean to fit a car. Hamilton could not move over. He was already on the grass and skidding because of Grosjean's action. Whether he'd have crashed into Grosjean straight away or after skidding through the grass wouldn't have made much difference. I think they touched because Hamilton had no room anymore. Having room because the wheels interlock isn't having room, it just means you're lucky to not have hit yet, but it's inevitable you will. The crash was Grosjean's fault in my opinion, it's just a matter of whether it justified a ban.

Hamilton DID have room. You're wrong. Hammy had room on his right, a couple feet of tarmac plus the grass. You can drive on the grass. You aren't guaranteed to spin there. If you're supposed to be a world champion you can drive there without wrecking, otherwise get out of the sport. He chose to race rather than avoid contact. That's his right. I was not referring the the interlocked wheels when I said he had room. That's ridiculous.
By What's Burning?
#318766
Hamilton DID have room. You're wrong. Hammy had room on his right, a couple feet of tarmac plus the grass. You can drive on the grass. You aren't guaranteed to spin there. If you're supposed to be a world champion you can drive there without wrecking, otherwise get out of the sport. He chose to race rather than avoid contact. That's his right. I was not referring the the interlocked wheels when I said he had room. That's ridiculous.


Yeah! I can't believe those inconsistent SOBs at the FIA didn't give HIM a one race suspension as well! :P
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By myownalias
#318779
How is this going to affect our F1 pool MOA?

Just vote for Grosjean and I'll count it as a vote for the Custard man.. I'm not going to rewrite the code for a single race ban!
By Hammer278
#318788
Hamilton DID have room. You're wrong. Hammy had room on his right, a couple feet of tarmac plus the grass. You can drive on the grass. You aren't guaranteed to spin there. If you're supposed to be a world champion you can drive there without wrecking, otherwise get out of the sport. He chose to race rather than avoid contact. That's his right. I was not referring the the interlocked wheels when I said he had room. That's ridiculous.


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