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[McLaren Fan]

I'm surprised to see on formula1.com that 62% of people think Fisichella will beat Sutil!

[texasmr2]

I'm surprised to see on formula1.com that 62% of people think Fisichella will beat Sutil!

I think that's only to do with Fisi's experience. I for one find it hard to beleve all the backing that the rookie's are getting, having basically proved nothing in F1 race condition's, over the experienced F1 driver's.

[McLaren Fan]

I'm surprised to see on formula1.com that 62% of people think Fisichella will beat Sutil!

I think that's only to do with Fisi's experience. I for one find it hard to beleve all the backing that the rookie's are getting, having basically proved nothing in F1 race condition's, over the experienced F1 driver's.

Hmm. I agree that in exceptional circumstances, experience tends to show, although even last season there was one or two notable exceptions. The main flaw in that argument, I think, is that exception circumstances, like rain, only happen a few times a season and so the rookie is able to amass more points by doing well in more normal conditions.

[texasmr2]

Hmm. I agree that in exceptional circumstances, experience tends to show, although even last season there was one or two notable exceptions. The main flaw in that argument, I think, is that exception circumstances, like rain, only happen a few times a season and so the rookie is able to amass more points by doing well in more normal conditions.

Well not to be arguementative but I really dont see my comment as argumentive, as you put it, as having a FLAW, it's only my opinion . There seem's to be ALOT of opinion's/support & backing toward's the rookie's who have only showed their speed in testing or in lower serie's or for their rookie year.
Dont get me wrong I LUV to see rookie's 'Git er done' and upstage their experienced team mate's but Sutil is really unproven compared to Fisi. I'm also NOT supporting Fisi in any sense but his experience could prove alot of Sutil fan's wrong. Oh and by the way I would alos like to see Sutil upstage Fisi .

[McLaren Fan]

Hmm. I agree that in exceptional circumstances, experience tends to show, although even last season there was one or two notable exceptions. The main flaw in that argument, I think, is that exception circumstances, like rain, only happen a few times a season and so the rookie is able to amass more points by doing well in more normal conditions.

Well not to be arguementative but I really dont see my comment as argumentive, as you put it, as having a FLAW, it's only my opinion . There seem's to be ALOT of opinion's/support & backing toward's the rookie's who have only showed their speed in testing or in lower serie's or for their rookie year.
Dont get me wrong I LUV to see rookie's 'Git er done' and upstage their experienced team mate's but Sutil is really unproven compared to Fisi. I'm also NOT supporting Fisi in any sense but his experience could prove alot of Sutil fan's wrong. Oh and by the way I would alos like to see Sutil upstage Fisi .

You've misunderstood me. I'm not saying you were being argumentative. I was merely taking about your argument or point, if you want to call it that.

[texasmr2]

Hmm. I agree that in exceptional circumstances, experience tends to show, although even last season there was one or two notable exceptions. The main flaw in that argument, I think, is that exception circumstances, like rain, only happen a few times a season and so the rookie is able to amass more points by doing well in more normal conditions.

Well not to be arguementative but I really dont see my comment as argumentive, as you put it, as having a FLAW, it's only my opinion . There seem's to be ALOT of opinion's/support & backing toward's the rookie's who have only showed their speed in testing or in lower serie's or for their rookie year.
Dont get me wrong I LUV to see rookie's 'Git er done' and upstage their experienced team mate's but Sutil is really unproven compared to Fisi. I'm also NOT supporting Fisi in any sense but his experience could prove alot of Sutil fan's wrong. Oh and by the way I would alos like to see Sutil upstage Fisi .

You've misunderstood me. I'm not saying you were being argumentative. I was merely taking about your argument or point, if you want to call it that.

I honestly dont know how to reply to that without writing a book so, " ah ok'!

[texasmr2]

From SPEED TV's website:

Force India F1 launched its 2008 grand prix racer at the Autosport International today. Many missed the low key event taking place on the stand of the teams newest partner, machinery firm Hardinge.

The as yet unnamed car is based around the 2007 Spyker F8 VII chassis, but has undergone significant and ongoing development.

There is little change visible on the car but it features an all new gearbox casing, and work has been carried out on the cars balance especially with the demands of a car without traction control.

[McLaren Fan]

Some nice Indian economy there. The bins and tractor in the background look really cool.

[texasmr2]

Hence the 'low key' terminology .

[McLaren Fan]

To be honest, I can't stand teams such as they in Formula One. We like to see teams with some class, like McLaren (who, honestly, are usually the best at PR), Ferrari etc., not people whose idea of a car launch is to wheel it out of garage. Let's face it, taking your car out of the garage to drive to work in the morning is more classy than Force India's car launch.

[McLaren Fan]

Some nice Indian economy there. The bins and tractor in the background look really cool.

Sorry for double posting, not really allowed, I know, but I forgot to mention the equally classy-looking notebook sitting on the nose of the car.

[texasmr2]

To be honest, I can't stand teams such as they in Formula One. We like to see teams with some class, like McLaren (who, honestly, are usually the best at PR), Ferrari etc., not people whose idea of a car launch is to wheel it out of garage. Let's face it, taking your car out of the garage to drive to work in the morning is more classy than Force India's car launch.

Dont you think your being alittle too critical? Remember the glory day's of F1 where the car's were actually built in garage's ? Not all team's have $400M+ budget's, you work with what you have.

[McLaren Fan]

To be honest, I can't stand teams such as they in Formula One. We like to see teams with some class, like McLaren (who, honestly, are usually the best at PR), Ferrari etc., not people whose idea of a car launch is to wheel it out of garage. Let's face it, taking your car out of the garage to drive to work in the morning is more classy than Force India's car launch.

Dont you think your being alittle too critical? Remember the glory day's of F1 where the car's were actually built in garage's ? Not all team's have $400M+ budget's, you work with what you have.

I don't think it would cost that much to have the drivers there in their racing attire, some of the pit crew at hand to maybe push the car in, and a decent bill board in the background. If you were a sponsor, paying hundreds of thousands if not millions to get your name out, be happy with that? I also fear Force India cars are going to be an advertising board for Vijay Mallya's business empire.

[texasmr2]

Those are the only two pic's that SPEED had sorry they did not meet your criteria.

I also fear Force India cars are going to be an advertising board for Vijay Mallya's business empire.

So by your understanding Mercedes-Benz and Vodafone should take off their emblem's and advertisement's as well that are on the McLaren ?

[McLaren Fan]

Those are the only two pic's that SPEED had sorry they did not meet your criteria.

Don't take in personally. I'm just pointing out that Force India could have put in a little more effort in showing their commitment to their sponsors and Formula One for a modest sum of money.