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[NocturnalTendencies]

Two GP's would be nice here but street circuits tend to be kind of... boring.

That said, here's the proposed circuit in Weehawken, New Jersey.



At least the Manhattan skyline will be eye candy.

[Logan189]

Here you have a better picture of just how fast this track will be.

[Hammer278]

Reminds me of Canada + old Hockenheim. Nice!

[vlad]

Reminds me of Surfer's Paradise!

[McLaren]

No country should have two grand prix's end of.Let alone a country that shows as little interest to the sport (present company excluded of course).

But you look at how many F1 grand prix they have in the america's (North and South), it is very few compared to Europe. Adding a second in NJ would give people that side of the Atlantic more availability on going to see a GP. There are half a dozen GPs I could go see over a weekend period, with very little effort. That's not the case for the America's.

And no, there might not be the interest in F1 over there now - but this could change that - and whats wrong with that?

If your talking north and south america ,that's a different ball game.Theres been gp's in Mexico and Argentina,I would prefer one to return there myself.Rather than have two in the US.No one should have two in my mind.

[acosmichippo]

The problem with "only one per country" is that the US is so much bigger than any country in europe. With one race, only a small section of the country can reasonably consider actually going to the track.

Granted, other large countries like China and Russia only have one race, but do they also have the market potential the US does? Obviously China doesn't. Probably not Russia either.

[McLaren]

The problem with "only one per country" is that the US is so much bigger than any country in europe. With one race, only a small section of the country can reasonably consider actually going to the track.

Granted, other large countries like China and Russia only have one race, but do they also have the market potential the US does? Obviously China doesn't. Probably not Russia either.

I get what your saying but I think on the whole ,americans tend to make their own sports up and stick to them.They're not like the rest of the world where most play football,F1,cricket,rugby and so on.You have the likes of the world series baseball that only includes american teams.NFL that they class as world champions,but again only they play it.Basketball are very limited to a few counties around the world.
Indy car,nascar again made up themselves.I just don't think it's in their culture as a whole to take something new up made up by outsiders.A lot of americans don't have passports or even leave the US in their lifetimes.When you have a country that size it's understandable,great country after all.
Please don't take this post as a dig at americans,it's purely ment as I see it from a sporting prospective.Clearly there are a few members on this forum for a start that brake the rule,but not many do from personal experience.

[Fred_C_Dobbs]

American football evolved from rugby and a Canadian invented basketball. The English were playing "base-ball" about half a century before it arrived in the colonies.

Nonetheless, cultural exchange with the modern USA by and large tends to be one-way.

[LewEngBridewell]

Reminds me of Surfer's Paradise!

Indeed.

I only really know that circuit from a TOCA Race-Driver Game I have, but it did spring to mind all the same.

It always strikes me as lethal...........

[vlad]

Same here, mate!

[bud]

The problem with "only one per country" is that the US is so much bigger than any country in europe. With one race, only a small section of the country can reasonably consider actually going to the track.

Granted, other large countries like China and Russia only have one race, but do they also have the market potential the US does? Obviously China doesn't. Probably not Russia either.

I get what your saying but I think on the whole ,americans tend to make their own sports up and stick to them.They're not like the rest of the world where most play football,F1,cricket,rugby and so on.You have the likes of the world series baseball that only includes american teams.NFL that they class as world champions,but again only they play it.Basketball are very limited to a few counties around the world.
Indy car,nascar again made up themselves.I just don't think it's in their culture as a whole to take something new up made up by outsiders.A lot of americans don't have passports or even leave the US in their lifetimes.When you have a country that size it's understandable,great country after all.
Please don't take this post as a dig at americans,it's purely ment as I see it from a sporting prospective.Clearly there are a few members on this forum for a start that brake the rule,but not many do from personal experience.

It's called arrogance

[acosmichippo]

The problem with "only one per country" is that the US is so much bigger than any country in europe. With one race, only a small section of the country can reasonably consider actually going to the track.

Granted, other large countries like China and Russia only have one race, but do they also have the market potential the US does? Obviously China doesn't. Probably not Russia either.

I get what your saying but I think on the whole ,americans tend to make their own sports up and stick to them.They're not like the rest of the world where most play football,F1,cricket,rugby and so on.You have the likes of the world series baseball that only includes american teams.NFL that they class as world champions,but again only they play it.Basketball are very limited to a few counties around the world.
Indy car,nascar again made up themselves.I just don't think it's in their culture as a whole to take something new up made up by outsiders.A lot of americans don't have passports or even leave the US in their lifetimes.When you have a country that size it's understandable,great country after all.
Please don't take this post as a dig at americans,it's purely ment as I see it from a sporting prospective.Clearly there are a few members on this forum for a start that brake the rule,but not many do from personal experience.

Well, in an effort to not derail the thread, I won't respond point-by-point, but I agree in general. The thing is, without any americans actually in the sport, and only one race in the whole country every year (and not even on a coast where more globally-minded people are), there's not much of a reason for would-be average fans to bother.

Either way - one GP or two - I think the future of F1 in the US is really dependent on american participation in the sport in addition to aggressive marketing... which only Red Bull seems to be doing, curiously.

[bud]

. which only Red Bull seems to be doing, curiously

McLaren did the driver swap at Watkins glen, attempting to get some NASCAR fans onside... Good luck with that one.

[McLaren]

The problem with "only one per country" is that the US is so much bigger than any country in europe. With one race, only a small section of the country can reasonably consider actually going to the track.

Granted, other large countries like China and Russia only have one race, but do they also have the market potential the US does? Obviously China doesn't. Probably not Russia either.

I get what your saying but I think on the whole ,americans tend to make their own sports up and stick to them.They're not like the rest of the world where most play football,F1,cricket,rugby and so on.You have the likes of the world series baseball that only includes american teams.NFL that they class as world champions,but again only they play it.Basketball are very limited to a few counties around the world.
Indy car,nascar again made up themselves.I just don't think it's in their culture as a whole to take something new up made up by outsiders.A lot of americans don't have passports or even leave the US in their lifetimes.When you have a country that size it's understandable,great country after all.
Please don't take this post as a dig at americans,it's purely ment as I see it from a sporting prospective.Clearly there are a few members on this forum for a start that brake the rule,but not many do from personal experience.

Well, in an effort to not derail the thread, I won't respond point-by-point, but I agree in general. The thing is, without any americans actually in the sport, and only one race in the whole country every year (and not even on a coast where more globally-minded people are), there's not much of a reason for would-be average fans to bother.

Either way - one GP or two - I think the future of F1 in the US is really dependent on american participation in the sport in addition to aggressive marketing... which only Red Bull seems to be doing, curiously.

I wonder if they rotated the GP from one to the other for a couple of times.Then if one proves popular and the other doesn't keep it there.

[phil12321]

I think since F1 is evolving into a glamor sport then what better place to have it other then New york. F1 is not just about racing its about meeting and greeting people, developing business relationships. Thats what Bernie understands alot about. There is no doubt he will fill the seats. just pay 5 of the top entertainers in the world to perform and people will come. New york will probably be a greater success than the purpose built track in Austin Texas. You wait and see! And if they schedule it right then people could get a double dose of F1 with the Canadian GP followed by the New york GP. Its only a 4 hour drive away. It would probably be better to have it at night like Singapore. Though I wonder where the would have a DRS zone. looking at the proposed track map it seems as if the back straight/sweeper could induce sever over steer while the wing is open. I cant wait.