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deMuRe wrote:It's right here Jihad Joe's:Read between the lines deMure " Ok you want grovelling, I'll give you grovelling you corrupt spitful olg bar steward, here you go -grovel grovel grovel , Now piss off out of my factory and let me go racing"
"McLaren has recognised that this entire situation could have been avoided if we had informed Ferrari and the FIA about Nigel Stepney's first communication when it came to our attention. We are, of course, embarrassed by the successive disclosures and have apologised unreservedly to the FIA World Motor Sport Council."
Martin wrote:bud wrote:I am not particularly a fan of any team or driver but I do admit to a dislike of the way Ferrari operates, and always has done, off track.texasmr2 wrote:well the WHOLE McLaren team is being judged because of the actions of one manMartin wrote: I think its time now for Ferrari to apologise in public. If Ferrari had not passed the data to McL in the first place this situation could not have happened. An apology from Jean Todt would be appropriate since it was his failier in security that caused the problem.Why should Ferrari make a public apology that's just ludricous ! It was a trusted HIGH LEVEL employee who had full access to confidential material that passed it on to McLaren not the whole Ferrari team!
However, the facts are:- that the actions of 1 senior McL employee were deemed to be the responsibility of the whole company (and I agree with that) therefore, the actions of a single Ferrari employee must also be deemed to be an action by the whole company. Therefore, if the data was received by McL, and not an employee then was given by Ferrari and not an employee.
In the Renault case the data was taken by a McL employee who then moved to Renault and became a Renault employee, and then passed on McL property to Renault. A different scenario altogether, maybe the McL employee got the job with Renault because of the 'expertise' that he could bring with him? Who knows? The factis are that a Renault employee passed on stolen data to his employer.
So, I reiterate - Ferrari should apologise, especially Todt and Renault should be penalised on a tougher basis than McL because McL did not colude in the transfer of data as Ferrari did. At the very least Renault should apologise in public.
The FIA is corrupt - there can be no other explanation.


bud wrote:Mike no need to post your cover letter for your own personal CV on here. You already have the job as forum moron


Mikep99 wrote:I dont mind people disagreeing with me (even if they are wrong!), thats what debate / discussion is about, but if this is the best you can do Mike then I suggest that you leave the forum and go back to school.Martin wrote:bud wrote:I am not particularly a fan of any team or driver but I do admit to a dislike of the way Ferrari operates, and always has done, off track.texasmr2 wrote:well the WHOLE McLaren team is being judged because of the actions of one manMartin wrote: I think its time now for Ferrari to apologise in public. If Ferrari had not passed the data to McL in the first place this situation could not have happened. An apology from Jean Todt would be appropriate since it was his failier in security that caused the problem.Why should Ferrari make a public apology that's just ludricous ! It was a trusted HIGH LEVEL employee who had full access to confidential material that passed it on to McLaren not the whole Ferrari team!
However, the facts are:- that the actions of 1 senior McL employee were deemed to be the responsibility of the whole company (and I agree with that) therefore, the actions of a single Ferrari employee must also be deemed to be an action by the whole company. Therefore, if the data was received by McL, and not an employee then was given by Ferrari and not an employee.
In the Renault case the data was taken by a McL employee who then moved to Renault and became a Renault employee, and then passed on McL property to Renault. A different scenario altogether, maybe the McL employee got the job with Renault because of the 'expertise' that he could bring with him? Who knows? The factis are that a Renault employee passed on stolen data to his employer.
So, I reiterate - Ferrari should apologise, especially Todt and Renault should be penalised on a tougher basis than McL because McL did not colude in the transfer of data as Ferrari did. At the very least Renault should apologise in public.
The FIA is corrupt - there can be no other explanation.
I think this post would be a perfect candidate for this cover letter.
Not to mention posts from a few others that will remain nameless.
Martin wrote:[I dont mind people disagreeing with me (even if they are wrong!), thats what debate / discussion is about, but if this is the best you can do Mike then I suggest that you leave the forum and go back to school.Martin, I have discussed this same topic with a few people on here.

Mikep99 wrote:Martin wrote:[I dont mind people disagreeing with me (even if they are wrong!), thats what debate / discussion is about, but if this is the best you can do Mike then I suggest that you leave the forum and go back to school.Martin, I have discussed this same topic with a few people on here.
My crap threshold has well and truly been exceeded a while ago so my best has alread been and gone mate.
All I got now is a bit of sarcasam.
You need a reality check - just look at the FACTS & nothing else, because that is all that really matters in the real world mate
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