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#27476
What would you love to see the most return to F1? And what would you love to get rid of the most?

I'd bring back;

- Slicks (probable in 2009)
- Wider cars (probable in 2009)
- Turbochargers
- 3.5 or 3 Litre V12's and V10's (keep V8's as well)
- Cosworth
- Cosworth's DFV engine
- Drivers being allowed to wave their country's flag when they win a'la Senna many times and Damon Hill, Silverstone 1994
- Clutch and gearstick (keep Semi-Automatic transmissions as well)
- More teams and 26 car grids with pre-qualifying to eliminate the slowest cars from F1 fields that are more than 30 cars
- Ingenuity from car designers encouraging radical concepts like those from Colin Chapman, Gordon Murray, Ken Tyrrell and Harvey Postlethwaite etc.
- Flamboyant drivers (I hope Freddie Hunt's just like his father was)
- Murray Walker and James Hunt in the commentary box
- Drivers who are more like moving chicanes
- Legendary names like Lotus, Brabham and Tyrrell
- W12 engines (just to see someone try and revive Life, and watch it fail again :P)
- Tobacco sponsorship
- Mansell's Red 5 (Leo and Greg will probably bring it back)
- Old circuits like Estoril, Paul Ricard, Brands Hatch, Hermanos Rodriguez, old Hockenheim
- Drivers having water pistol fights in press conferences (Hakkinen and Irvine at Montreal 1999)
- Alex Wurz telling Nick Heidfeld to shave his beard
- Spectators being allowed into the pitlane (my dad's got tonnes of pictures from the pitlane at Brands Hatch 1982 and Silverstone 1988)
- The old FIA intro from the 80's - 1999 that plays at the 5 minute signal (current one's alright, but this one's legendary)
- Dangerously fast corners like old Tamburello, but with larger run-off areas and tyre barriers
- The old car numbering system (Ferrari number 27 etc)
- Larger french involvement (more French drivers and the French government backed Ligier team)
- Some races having crap picture quality (like Mexico used to, but why would I want to do that...?)
- Ferrari's blood red livery

What I'd get rid of;

- Mad Max
- Grooved tyres
- Emphasis on aerodynamic grip (especially all those annoying fins, flaps etc)
- Toyota's boring livery
- Ad breaks during ITV's coverage
- James Allen
- The 10 year engine development freeze
- Some of the OTT costs
- Engine restrictions
- Politics (put them in Brundle's Barrell)
- Boring tracks like Catalunya (especially Catalunya)
- Drivers who act like spoilt children and kick a fuss when they get a scratch on their cars

What would you like to bring back/get rid of? :)
#27482
What would you love to see the most return to F1? And what would you love to get rid of the most?

I'd bring back;

- Slicks (probable in 2009)- Wider cars (probable in 2009)
- Turbochargers
- 3.5 or 3 Litre V12's and V10's (keep V8's as well)
- Cosworth
- Cosworth's DFV engine
- Drivers being allowed to wave their country's flag when they win a'la Senna many times and Damon Hill, Silverstone 1994- Clutch and gearstick (keep Semi-Automatic transmissions as well)
- More teams and 26 car grids with pre-qualifying to eliminate the slowest cars from F1 fields that are more than 30 cars
- Ingenuity from car designers encouraging radical concepts like those from Colin Chapman, Gordon Murray, Ken Tyrrell and Harvey Postlethwaite etc.- Flamboyant drivers (I hope Freddie Hunt's just like his father was)
- Murray Walker and James Hunt in the commentary box- Drivers who are more like moving chicanes
- Legendary names like Lotus, Brabham and Tyrrell AND BRM- W12 engines (just to see someone try and revive Life, and watch it fail again :P)
- Tobacco sponsorship- Mansell's Red 5 (Leo and Greg will probably bring it back)
- Old circuits like Estoril, Paul Ricard, Brands Hatch, Hermanos Rodriguez, old Hockenheim
- Drivers having water pistol fights in press conferences (Hakkinen and Irvine at Montreal 1999)
- Alex Wurz telling Nick Heidfeld to shave his beard
- Spectators being allowed into the pitlane (my dad's got tonnes of pictures from the pitlane at Brands Hatch 1982 and Silverstone 1988)
- The old FIA intro from the 80's - 1999 that plays at the 5 minute signal (current one's alright, but this one's legendary)
- Dangerously fast corners like old Tamburello, but with larger run-off areas and tyre barriers
- The old car numbering system (Ferrari number 27 etc)
- Larger french involvement (more French drivers and the French government backed Ligier team)
- Some races having crap picture quality (like Mexico used to, but why would I want to do that...?)
- Ferrari's blood red livery

What I'd get rid of;

- Mad Max
- Grooved tyres
- Emphasis on aerodynamic grip (especially all those annoying fins, flaps etc)
- Toyota's boring livery
- Ad breaks during ITV's coverage
- James Allen
- The 10 year engine development freeze
- Some of the OTT costs
- Engine restrictions
- Politics (put them in Brundle's Barrell)
- Boring tracks like Catalunya (especially Catalunya)
- Drivers who act like spoilt children and kick a fuss when they get a scratch on their cars

What would you like to bring back/get rid of? :)


Id want every thing in green and nothing in red.
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By darwin dali
#27487
It must be the middle of the off-season! :wink:
#27488
What would you love to see the most return to F1? And what would you love to get rid of the most?

I'd bring back;

- Slicks (probable in 2009)
- Wider cars (probable in 2009)
- Turbochargers
- 3.5 or 3 Litre V12's and V10's (keep V8's as well)
- Cosworth
- Cosworth's DFV engine
- Drivers being allowed to wave their country's flag when they win a'la Senna many times and Damon Hill, Silverstone 1994
- Clutch and gearstick (keep Semi-Automatic transmissions as well)
- More teams and 26 car grids with pre-qualifying to eliminate the slowest cars from F1 fields that are more than 30 cars
- Ingenuity from car designers encouraging radical concepts like those from Colin Chapman, Gordon Murray, Ken Tyrrell and Harvey Postlethwaite etc.
- Flamboyant drivers (I hope Freddie Hunt's just like his father was)
- Murray Walker and James Hunt in the commentary box
- Drivers who are more like moving chicanes
- Legendary names like Lotus, Brabham and Tyrrell
- W12 engines (just to see someone try and revive Life, and watch it fail again :P)
- Tobacco sponsorship
- Mansell's Red 5 (Leo and Greg will probably bring it back)
- Old circuits like Estoril, Paul Ricard, Brands Hatch, Hermanos Rodriguez, old Hockenheim
- Drivers having water pistol fights in press conferences (Hakkinen and Irvine at Montreal 1999)
- Alex Wurz telling Nick Heidfeld to shave his beard
- Spectators being allowed into the pitlane (my dad's got tonnes of pictures from the pitlane at Brands Hatch 1982 and Silverstone 1988)
- The old FIA intro from the 80's - 1999 that plays at the 5 minute signal (current one's alright, but this one's legendary)
- Dangerously fast corners like old Tamburello, but with larger run-off areas and tyre barriers
- The old car numbering system (Ferrari number 27 etc)
- Larger french involvement (more French drivers and the French government backed Ligier team)
- Some races having crap picture quality (like Mexico used to, but why would I want to do that...?)
- Ferrari's blood red livery

What I'd get rid of;

- Mad Max
- Grooved tyres
- Emphasis on aerodynamic grip (especially all those annoying fins, flaps etc)
- Toyota's boring livery
- Ad breaks during ITV's coverage
- James Allen
- The 10 year engine development freeze
- Some of the OTT costs
- Engine restrictions
- Politics (put them in Brundle's Barrell)
- Boring tracks like Catalunya (especially Catalunya)
- Drivers who act like spoilt children and kick a fuss when they get a scratch on their cars

What would you like to bring back/get rid of? :)


I agree with just about all of that, sadly there is no way a lot of it will happen. :cry:
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By bud
#27500
Tobacco sponsorships still around Ferrari havent listened to the ban ;)
User avatar
By texasmr2
#27520
Tobacco sponsorships still around Ferrari havent listened to the ban ;)

I remember Bob Varsha commenting on that, cant remember which race it was, but I believe it had to due with the tabacco ban being a european ban and the race was not in what was considered to be apart of europe ? If I missed something please enlighten this old dog :lol::wink: .
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By bud
#27522
either way you look at it, all the other teams like McLaren and Renault could have taken a similar route with West and Mild Seven but chose to move forward and not promote Smoking which is the whole purpose of the ban.
Ferrari only care about the Marlboro pay cheque. and im surprised the F0M hasnt done more about this topic to be honest.
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By texasmr2
#27526
Well wouldn't you take full sponsorship advantage when the opportunity presented itself as a team principal? I'm not trying to justify Ferrari running the Marlboro banner on their car just trying to remember why it was allowed ? Ferrari caring about the paycheck your dang right, a team would be a fool not to take advantage of an opportunity to satisfy their biggest sponsor's advertising need's and want's.
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By bud
#27530
But Renault has set a better example, they did not have an alternative to Mild Seven at first it took some time until they teamed up with ING.
it would have been safer to stay with Mild Seven with subliminal advertising like Ferrari do with the occasional GP where Tobacco bans arent applicable like Monaco and China.
Tex do you not see that for Ferrari to obey the ban they would need to drop Marlboro all together? thats the beef here! They continued and infact signed a multi year contract while other teams parted ways with their tobacco links.
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By texasmr2
#27535
OK so tell me again why you think Ferrari should drop Marlboro all together, whom seem to be happy enough with knowing that they have been a longtime sponsor and people recognize the relationship between the two without having to advertise it on the car during 98% of the race's? Marlboro is proud to be apart of the Ferrari family, the lack of on-car sponsorship is not and has not effected Marlboro's standing in the tobacco industry at all.

Marlboro was well aware of the risk they took still backing Ferrari when the tobacco advertising ban took place ? You take advantage of an opportunity were it exist right? The ban only lie's with the advertisment not in the sponsorship.
User avatar
By bud
#27536
Tex before we go any further answer me this question

Why is tobacco advertising banned?
User avatar
By darwin dali
#27538
Good question bud - it doesn't make sense. It's a legal product. Same as alcohol, and advertising for alcohol is NOT banned. Not very consistent.
User avatar
By bud
#27539
so youre a smoker darwin? only a fool would question its banning.

and i suppose you brought up alcohol becuase of McLarens sponsorship with Johnnie Walker no doubt.
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