FRAFPDD wrote:McLaren wrote:FRAFPDD wrote:acosmichippo wrote:But this list isn't for the "best". I'm inclined to think Senna did more for McLaren in his 6 years with the team than Prost did with his 6 years.
It is the list for Mclarens best drivers.....so Prost is best....
Is this the same Senna that was there for four years before demanding a race by race contract and finally leaving on a bad note for Williams and disposing of the team that gave him 3 titles like a used tissue.
Before you say Prost did the same, Prost left cause he couldnt handle the Senna favouritism in the team, Prost left Mclaren as the world champion.
As a Prost fan I'm surprised you highlighted the 6 years each bit ,but failed to notice who Alain drove for in 1980(7 years),oh and John Watson finished above him in the championship that year
Edit : Ayrton only got beaten by a team mate once at McLaren '89,when Mansell took him out deliberatly after being black flagged and he had a perfectly good race win taken away in japan,which would of won the title.
Alain got beaten three times by team mates at McLaren though.
if you want to turn this into a Prost vs Senna debate youll lose too easily.
Prost thrashed World champion to be Damon Hill in the same car in 1993,
Prost thrashed World champion to be Nigel Mansell in the same car in 1990
Prost thrashed World champion Keke Rosberg in the same car in 1986
Prost thrashed World champion Aytron Senna by 21 points in the same car in 1989 (oh, and considerably under-favoured too)
The only times Alain lost to a teammate?
First year in F1, in which he didnt participate in 3 races compared to Watsons 100 percent.
A absurd points system in 88, he ammassed plenty more points to beat Senna, but only wins were important.
by less then a point to three time world champion Lauda.
If you need a kicker (although you have been soundly ousted) Prost also thrashed Grand Prix winners Arnoux and Alesi when teammates with him.
I got more to give if you can take it?
Well Damon Hill was in his debut season in formula one,a true rookie.To add to that Frank Williams said the best driver to drive for Williams was Senna,how he made that out in the short time Ayrton was there i have no idea.
But to compare other drivers to Ayrton and Alain is simply silly ,they were by far best of their generation.
Alain himself said of Ayrton If he is is in a quicker car than you, he is quicker,if he is in the same car as you, he is quicker,even if hes in a slower car than you, he's quicker.( I class that as Ayrton's biggest ever praise to be honest)
You only have to see the 1993 season to see perfection as a racing driver.Don't bother to include Donnington in that(icing on the cake).To take the title to the penultimate race in a car that was mostly 2 seconds off the pace of the williams was the best racing I've ever witnessed.
On the other side it's amazing I see the two of them race on 5 occasions live and I never did see Ayrton win ,oh well maybe he was human after all