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And you also like Hamilton because of his results, his performance, right?
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vlad wrote:And you also like Hamilton because of his results, his performance, right?I told you "why" dude! If you are unable to answer just say so,no need to beat around the bush.


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FerrariFan63 wrote:Last year I might have agreed with Flavio, that Vettel is a good driver, but not a really great one. He's clearly taken a step up this year. He's still young, and is clearly learning. I think it'll be a couple of years before Vettel reaches his peak.
He clearly had the speed. This year we've seen him gain a cooler head, and a more aggressive style on track when it is needed.
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. 
Fred_C_Dobbs wrote:What 19-year old test driver set several fastest laps in free practice driving for BMW-Sauber?Just for those on here who don't know what a Trabi is, here's an interesting one, maybe modded by AN?
Who is the only driver ever to take pole in a Scuderia Toro Rosso?
Who is the only driver ever to win a race for Scuderia Toro Rosso?
Briatore is saying something outrageous so he might see his name in the news. Vettel would be fast if he were driving a Trabant.

Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. 
darwin dali wrote:A one second buffer in qualifying is quite a bit of a headcooler. The Red Bulls reliability had improved in leaps and bounds over last year's car, and even hamstrung with a flaky KERS the car is clearly superior to any other car on the grid. Vettel's maturity and mistake free driving this year is what's sealing the deal for him, but in the sport the only thing that's factual is that this year Vettel is a better driver than Webber, as any direct comparison to other drivers on the grid are just opinions.FerrariFan63 wrote:Last year I might have agreed with Flavio, that Vettel is a good driver, but not a really great one. He's clearly taken a step up this year. He's still young, and is clearly learning. I think it'll be a couple of years before Vettel reaches his peak.
He clearly had the speed. This year we've seen him gain a cooler head, and a more aggressive style on track when it is needed.
What's Burning? wrote:And thus the question. Is Webber being given a fair shot as well or treated as a clear #2. If it's a case of the latter then,oh welldarwin dali wrote:A one second buffer in qualifying is quite a bit of a headcooler. The Red Bulls reliability had improved in leaps and bounds over last year's car, and even hamstrung with a flaky KERS the car is clearly superior to any other car on the grid. Vettel's maturity and mistake free driving this year is what's sealing the deal for him, but in the sport the only thing that's factual is that this year Vettel is a better driver than Webber, as any direct comparison to other drivers on the grid are just opinions.FerrariFan63 wrote:Last year I might have agreed with Flavio, that Vettel is a good driver, but not a really great one. He's clearly taken a step up this year. He's still young, and is clearly learning. I think it'll be a couple of years before Vettel reaches his peak.
He clearly had the speed. This year we've seen him gain a cooler head, and a more aggressive style on track when it is needed.


Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. 
F1er wrote:I haven't heard a single "not bad for a number two driver" comment from Webber, so I'd have to give Vettel the benefit of any of (what little) doubt there may be.What's Burning? wrote:And thus the question. Is Webber being given a fair shot as well or treated as a clear #2. If it's a case of the latter then,oh welldarwin dali wrote:A one second buffer in qualifying is quite a bit of a headcooler. The Red Bulls reliability had improved in leaps and bounds over last year's car, and even hamstrung with a flaky KERS the car is clearly superior to any other car on the grid. Vettel's maturity and mistake free driving this year is what's sealing the deal for him, but in the sport the only thing that's factual is that this year Vettel is a better driver than Webber, as any direct comparison to other drivers on the grid are just opinions.FerrariFan63 wrote:Last year I might have agreed with Flavio, that Vettel is a good driver, but not a really great one. He's clearly taken a step up this year. He's still young, and is clearly learning. I think it'll be a couple of years before Vettel reaches his peak.
He clearly had the speed. This year we've seen him gain a cooler head, and a more aggressive style on track when it is needed.Flavio might have a point.
F1er wrote:What's Burning? wrote:And thus the question. Is Webber being given a fair shot as well or treated as a clear #2. If it's a case of the latter then,oh welldarwin dali wrote:A one second buffer in qualifying is quite a bit of a headcooler. The Red Bulls reliability had improved in leaps and bounds over last year's car, and even hamstrung with a flaky KERS the car is clearly superior to any other car on the grid. Vettel's maturity and mistake free driving this year is what's sealing the deal for him, but in the sport the only thing that's factual is that this year Vettel is a better driver than Webber, as any direct comparison to other drivers on the grid are just opinions.FerrariFan63 wrote:Last year I might have agreed with Flavio, that Vettel is a good driver, but not a really great one. He's clearly taken a step up this year. He's still young, and is clearly learning. I think it'll be a couple of years before Vettel reaches his peak.
He clearly had the speed. This year we've seen him gain a cooler head, and a more aggressive style on track when it is needed.Flavio might have a point.
darwin dali wrote:Did I hear somebody ask for a photo?
What's Burning? wrote:Looks like not only Elisabetta is 5 months pregnant:darwin dali wrote:Did I hear somebody ask for a photo?Much higher resolution on this one, although thank gods there is no bottom half of the pic.

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