Woodchip Ecstatic - Todt GONE!

Woodchip Ecstatic - Todt GONE!#24030

By Woodchip - 12 Nov 07, 12:43

- 12 Nov 07, 12:43#24030

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_ ... t_id=33385

Todt has been replaced by Stefano Domenicali.

I have nothing more to say on the matter (for the time being)

#24031

By raithrover - 12 Nov 07, 12:47

- 12 Nov 07, 12:47#24031

Interesting timing with the news regarding Ross Brawn. Also the full Ferrari management layout is not fully confirmed yet, Todt was extremely lucky to land the constructors and drivers championships this season, as we all know.

#24033

By bud - 12 Nov 07, 12:54

- 12 Nov 07, 12:54#24033

Todts gone from the pit wall but he still has his smug grin behind closed doors at Ferrari as CEO

#24036

By Woodchip - 12 Nov 07, 12:56

- 12 Nov 07, 12:56#24036

Todts gone from the pit wall but he still has his smug grin behind closed doors at Ferrari as CEO

That'll do me, just get him off my TV. Hopefully Ferrari will fall apart now. A lot of key people have left/moved in the last 12 months. Next year could be very interesting.

I have nothing more to say on the matter (for the time being)

#24042

By McLaren Fan - 12 Nov 07, 14:39

- 12 Nov 07, 14:39#24042

Well, it looks like Ferrari are back to the early and mid '90s. Mainly Italians running the place who haven't got a clue.

Seriously, it would be very silly to underestimate Ferrari but there is no doubt that in Schumacher, Brawn and Byrne they had a Formula One dream team and reaching the dizzy heights they did again will be tough.

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#24046

By 8-ball - 12 Nov 07, 14:47

- 12 Nov 07, 14:47#24046

That'll do me, just get him off my TV. Hopefully Ferrari will fall apart now. A lot of key people have left/moved in the last 12 months. Next year could be very interesting.

it was those people that were single handedly responsible for ferrari success! the teams must now be feeling that 2008 is going to be a lot more competitive

#24052

By TheDarkSide10 - 12 Nov 07, 15:11

- 12 Nov 07, 15:11#24052

No 2009!

Nick is simply more than quick, he is great.

#24065

By racechick - 12 Nov 07, 18:40

- 12 Nov 07, 18:40#24065

Yes the little group that arrived as a package-Schumacher, Byrne, Brawn, Todt have all gone

Only Max left to get rid of now :wink:

Seriously if Max keeps his fingers out the pie or gets dumped Ferrari could struggle next year

Great not to have to look at Todt's face tho, he makes me feel sick!

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#24068

By 7UpJordan - 12 Nov 07, 18:57

- 12 Nov 07, 18:57#24068

Funny how Todt's gone just as Honda recruit Ross Brawn. Last year I said Ferrari would struggle without Schumi, but I was proven wrong, so for 2008 I'm not going to underestimate Ferrari. The only way the team could go into a crap spell would be if a mass of internal team politics broke out like it did when Alain Prost joined them in 1990.

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#24075

By mooker - 12 Nov 07, 19:21

- 12 Nov 07, 19:21#24075

The only way the team could go into a crap spell would be if a mass of internal team politics broke out like it did when Alain Prost joined them in 1990.

Maybe that'll be due to Alonso, 2009?

#24102

By darwin dali - 13 Nov 07, 02:51

- 13 Nov 07, 02:51#24102

Seems like every team has its own problems: McLaren setback, pit lane, scrutineering, new driver. Ferrari internal replacement of key figures, could be tough going. Honda on a regrouping mission with Ross showing them the way. Renault, spygate II, FA possibly re-joining and becoming a potential liability. Looks to me the teams with the most internal stability (BMW-Sauber, Williams, Red Bull) might get a serious stab at the front runner position next year, especially BMW-Sauber...
Overall however, I still think it'll be for Ferrari to lose it despite the reorganization efforts - who's to say that the new home grown generation of people (I include FM in here as well) hasn't learned a fair bit from the old pros that have left the organization? Also, MS and JT are still around to chip in with some help if they're asked for it in a potential crisis.

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#24104

By texasmr2 - 13 Nov 07, 03:02

- 13 Nov 07, 03:02#24104

Seems like every team has its own problems: McLaren setback, pit lane, scrutineering, new driver. Ferrari internal replacement of key figures, could be tough going. Honda on a regrouping mission with Ross showing them the way. Renault, spygate II, FA possibly re-joining and becoming a potential liability. Looks to me the teams with the most internal stability (BMW-Sauber, Williams, Red Bull) might get a serious stab at the front runner position next year, especially BMW-Sauber...
Overall however, I still think it'll be for Ferrari to lose it despite the reorganization efforts - who's to say that the new home grown generation of people (I include FM in here as well) hasn't learned a fair bit from the old pros that have left the organization? Also, MS and JT are still around to chip in with some help if they're asked for it in a potential crisis.

YEP!

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