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[racechick]

He is also a driver that as a double world champion was beaten by a rookie hamilton in the same car. Why is that so tricky to remember

You should make that question to Uncle Ron, not to me. I know that you, in the deep of your heart, like very much Fernando.

No I dont like him one tiny little bit. And I have no need to speak to Ron to help me remember the facts of 2007.

Oh! Sorry, in that case I was wrong, but I guess you remember Uncle Ron saying they were racing against Alonso, I mean his own driver. In my opinion, McLaren lost a great opportunity for wining another WDC by racing against Alonso, but of course Lewis did a good job, as he always does.
By the way, which is your favorite driver if not Alonso?

Yes I remember Ron saying that. That was just after Alonso had screwed his team over. Alonso was history by then. But yes it was a shame he messed up Mclarens chance. But this is all old news and has been discussed endlessly. Its done now, time to move on.

You know who my favourite driver is.

[F1er]

Hamilton vs Alonso: A fast-paced tale of jealousy and intense sporting rivalry

When Alonso was told by his McLaren team that Hamilton, then the reigning GP2 champion, would be his partner for 2007, he was a little nonplussed
As the season continued, however, it became increasingly obvious that Hamilton was there to race, and to win. When Alonso had signed his deal with McLaren, back in December 2005, he had done so because of a conversation the previous October with McLaren team principal, Ron Dennis.
At times, Alonso had been unhappy at Renault that teammate Giancarlo Fisichella, whom he usually beat, had been allowed to get the better of him. He went to McLaren with the comfortable feeling that all the attention would be on him in the team's highly focused quest for success.

So, it didn't take long for feathers to get ruffled as Hamilton rattled off not just a record-annihilating run of nine consecutive podium finishes in his first nine grands prix, but actually won two races.

He made Alonso look like the rookie in Canada, where the Spaniard fell off the road four times trying to keep up, and he so rattled him while winning in America a week later that a petulant Alonso sped down the main straight on one lap so close to the pit wall that his team, which refused to tell Hamilton to move over, was sprayed with grit.
The Hungarian Grand Prix changed all that, and consigned the cordiality of their relationship to the sporting bench.

The team's strategy for qualifying called for Hamilton to let Alonso get ahead of him. He did not. "After my first run, I was sent out of the garage first and got to the end of the pit lane first," Hamilton said yesterday. "When I was there the team reminded me to let Fernando pass. I saw him staggered to my right in my mirrors, and Kimi [Ferrari driver Raikkonen] was very close.

"Immediately, I thought 'OK, I'll let Fernando past so long as doing so won't let Kimi past as well and spoil my run.' I thought I'd take the decision when I got round the first corner, and if Fernando was with me and we both had pace, I'd let him go.

"I pushed, but I don't know why he didn't. He actually fell back quite a bit. I was told again to let him past but he was miles behind so I just kept going. If he had stayed right with me, I would have let him past."
Alonso, feeling that Hamilton had compromised him, then deliberately loitered in the pits, ahead of Hamilton, before their final runs. By the time Hamilton's car was fitted with its final set of tyres, Alonso had embarked on the lap that would win him pole position, and Hamilton had run out of time for his own last attempt. Over the radio he roundly berated Dennis, whom at that time he believed to be the architect of his downfall because he had not obeyed orders.

"Don't you ever f***ing do that to me again," he is alleged to have said to the man who gave him his big break. "Don't f***ing speak to me like that," Dennis is said to have replied.

"Fu***ng swivel on it," Hamilton reportedly retorted.
In Hungary, Alonso was the only member of the McLaren team not to wish Hamilton good luck before the start,

After that.......................

[vaptin]

? Oh I see, the topic has reached this stage again.

[racechick]

Fraid so Slippy little blighters Lewis and Fernando, they worm their way into everything where they have no business.

So who thinks Mercedes wants Vettel and who thinks they want Hulkenburg??

[vaptin]

Fraid so Slippy little blighters Lewis and Fernando, they worm their way into everything where they have no business.

So who thinks Mercedes wants Vettel and who thinks they want Hulkenburg??

Hulkenburg

[racechick]

Fraid so Slippy little blighters Lewis and Fernando, they worm their way into everything where they have no business.

So who thinks Mercedes wants Vettel and who thinks they want Hulkenburg??

Hulkenburg

so who they gonna ditch?

[vaptin]

Fraid so Slippy little blighters Lewis and Fernando, they worm their way into everything where they have no business.

So who thinks Mercedes wants Vettel and who thinks they want Hulkenburg??

Hulkenburg

so who they gonna ditch?

Shumacher retirement.

[racechick]

Fraid so Slippy little blighters Lewis and Fernando, they worm their way into everything where they have no business.

So who thinks Mercedes wants Vettel and who thinks they want Hulkenburg??

Hulkenburg

so who they gonna ditch?

Shumacher retirement.

Someone else might have snapped Hulk up by then, specially if Schumacher does well this year and decides to stick around

[CarBore]

Well speculation has Hulk as Merc of FI reserve which sets him up nicely to take the Merc race seat for 2013.

This is presuming that Vettel will stay at Red Bull which I believe he will for the near future and as long as Adrian Newey stays around I can't imagine the RB(insert number here) will be off the pace, although i doubt we will see the 2010 level unless the 2013 revisions throw up another 2009 DDD fiasco. Yes I like using the word fiasco

[Jensonb]

I'd be amazed if Vettel doesn't start wearing Silver once Red Bull have their obligatory slump.

[texasmr2]

I'd be amazed if Vettel doesn't start wearing Silver once Red Bull have their obligatory slump.

[nish2280]

But what about Nick Heidfeld? Hes got much more experience and hes probably above average in pace, why wouldnt mercedes snap him up (again)?

[texasmr2]

But what about Nick Heidfeld? Hes got much more experience and hes probably above average in pace, why wouldnt mercedes snap him up (again)?

Nick's great imo aswell but I'm getting the impression he is considered disgarded rubbage so I think it will be tough although I think he deserves another chance.

[Jensonb]

But what about Nick Heidfeld? Hes got much more experience and hes probably above average in pace, why wouldnt mercedes snap him up (again)?

Because it worked out so well when they brought Michael frigging Schumacher out of retirement.

At this stage, Rosberg and/or Vettel would be filling in the seasoned pro role, so they'd be looking for someone fresh to put in the other seat - if there was one - not bring someone out of retirement (Admittedly, Heidfeld's was incredibly premature).

[Robert12010]

a young sucsessful german in a german team with big history, its going to happen or if it doesnt then he'll end up in one of the red cars, as much as red bull dont want to believe it they're superstar might not be there much longer and then webber wont be an inconvinience