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By Jensonb
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Something interesting on Ferrari passing their monocoque test so early. As the article mentions there are new composite materials. I think Ferrari submitted much earlier than normal because they have some innovations here - possibly related to some of these newish intelligent materials. As I understand these offer significant construction opportunities for engineers because they feature memories - they can distort to differing shapes yet can memorise their original shapes.

By submitting the chassis much earlier than normal for Ferrari, they could get an OK from the FiA by passing the test. Also, once chassis have passed this test they can't be changed - if Ferrari do have some innovations here it would be hard for other teams to copy in 2011 as the chassis can't be changed. If the FiA had a problem with the Ferrari chassis and its new materials, submitting early would give Ferrari time to change to more conventional materials.

That fin would be illegal, for a couple of reasons but the easiest one is that body work isn't allowed to contact the rear wing anymore.

Looks like its overhanging, and close, but also side image to me shows it actually not touching.

Hey spankyham, you might know the answer to this...Regarding how passed despite a crack. Had you heard anything about if the crack came about before (like as a simple manufacturing error) or after the test? Because if was there before, that sounds like a damned impressive result.
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By spankyham
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Hey spankyham, you might know the answer to this...Regarding how passed despite a crack. Had you heard anything about if the crack came about before (like as a simple manufacturing error) or after the test? Because if was there before, that sounds like a damned impressive result.


Happened during/as-part-of the test. Not a manufacturing fault but was within acceptable tolerance, therefore it was passed. It was some of the new materials as I understand it.
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By Jensonb
#233041
Hey spankyham, you might know the answer to this...Regarding how passed despite a crack. Had you heard anything about if the crack came about before (like as a simple manufacturing error) or after the test? Because if was there before, that sounds like a damned impressive result.


Happened during/as-part-of the test. Not a manufacturing fault but was within acceptable tolerance, therefore it was passed. It was some of the new materials as I understand it.

Makes sense. Cheers, I've been wondering about that for a while.
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I was actually wondering about the funky "aero" front wheels Ferrari used. They made a minor deal out of them early in the season bu no other teams could not use them because they had to be tested/approved whatever previously. The drawing in Spanky's post shows them so perhaps it will be in the the me-too bag of tricks for a bunch of teams.
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By scotty
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I was actually wondering about the funky "aero" front wheels Ferrari used. They made a minor deal out of them early in the season bu no other teams could not use them because they had to be tested/approved whatever previously. The drawing in Spanky's post shows them so perhaps it will be in the the me-too bag of tricks for a bunch of teams.


I had heard that steps have been taken to ban them, but that might just be rumour...
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By texasmr2
#233058
I had heard that steps have been taken to ban them, but that might just be rumour...

If memory serves me that was early last season, there is a discussion or mention about elsewhere it but I don't want to 'search' for it.
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By spankyham
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I had heard that steps have been taken to ban them, but that might just be rumour...

If memory serves me that was early last season, there is a discussion or mention about elsewhere it but I don't want to 'search' for it.


The wheel rims are homologated and can't be changed during the season. Obviously legal in 2010 and I don't see anything that will ban them for 2011.
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By bud
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That fin would be illegal, for a couple of reasons but the easiest one is that body work isn't allowed to contact the rear wing anymore.


thats right, there'll be none of this Image
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I had heard that steps have been taken to ban them, but that might just be rumour...

If memory serves me that was early last season, there is a discussion or mention about elsewhere it but I don't want to 'search' for it.


The wheel rims are homologated and can't be changed during the season. Obviously legal in 2010 and I don't see anything that will ban them for 2011.


Got this from Scarbsf1

No more shaped wheel spokes

After the static front wheel fairings that abounded in 2009, were banned and the wheel design homologated, there must have been some surprise that Ferrari managed to create an aerodynamic wheel shape in 2010. This is partly limited now by the restriction on surface area for spokes and shaping. The limited only allows 13% of the wheel centre to be spoked, meaning that a ten spoke wheel has to have spokes just 16mm wide.

“12.4.6 When viewed perpendicular to the plane formed by the outer face of the wheel and between the diameters of 120mm and 270mm the wheel may have an area of no greater than 24,000mm2.”
#233123
^^ teeny weeny bit off topic for this thread yes?

Anyway, black and red, yuck overdone. Now I'd love McLaren in a black chrome instead.
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By Jensonb
#233127
Mclaren's 2011 Teamwear.
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Could be a Black and Red Mclaren for 2011?

Possible. The only other option they have if they want to get away from the silver and its associations with Mercedes is Red and White, and we all know they're not gonna be doing that any time soon.

It'd be a shame, because I like ever car to have different colours, and the Virgins are already black and red. Also, I'm not sure I like the new teamwear. Especially the caps.
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By bud
#233134
Possible. The only other option they have if they want to get away from the silver and its associations with Mercedes is Red and White,


Look at the colour of the car in my avatar for McLarens true colours they could race in.
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