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#218178
spankyham wrote:
stonemonkey wrote:
Why even say it?
He was being interviewed by a German newspaper and I'd assume he was replying to a question about how he felt about Schumacher.
Fair enough, but, for me, a real champion, a la Stirling Moss, would have stuck with his original answer to that question, or just said he already answered that.
Stirling Moss was never world champion...
#218185
spankyham wrote:
stonemonkey wrote:
Why even say it?
He was being interviewed by a German newspaper and I'd assume he was replying to a question about how he felt about Schumacher.
Fair enough, but, for me, a real champion, a la Stirling Moss, would have stuck with his original answer to that question, or just said he already answered that.
Everyone who was expecting Schumacher to be competitive has been left disappointed, you would expect Moss (if he was one of those hopefuls) to lie?
#218189
I dont see the point here? The comment was not disrespectful, it was stating a fact. There is no kudos this year in beating Schumacher, why lie about it when asked? And why do you make the reference to Moss? Moss will always give his honest opinions when asked. As has been pointed out Moss was never world champion, a fantastic driver and ambassador for the sport, and 5 times runner up, but never champion. Lewis on the other hand is a real champion.
#218215
myownalias wrote:What's all this real champion bullsh*t? everyone that has won a world drivers title is a real champion whether you like the driver or not! :rolleyes:
For me a Champion isn't just about winning races. As a champion, I'd place Stirling Moss over all the current crop of drivers. That's not to say that some might not develop into the sort of champion he is. And, yes, as someone mentioned, he never won a WDC - but only because he decided he didn't want it on a bad stewards decision. For those of you who don't know, in the 1958 Hawthorn/Ferrari were penalised at the Portugal (I think?) GP. If SM had just said nothing, he was WDC for 1958. But, he went and spoke in favour of Ferrari, told the stewards that Ferrari hadn't broken the rules and got the stewards to reinstate Hawthorn/Ferrari. Hawthorn/Ferrari went on to beat SM by one point that year.

If you watch his recent interview, when he is asked about who is the better driver between Jenson and Lewis, he is complimentary to both drivers.

For me, he is a real champion.
#218246
In the thousand page long thread of Jenson vs. Lewis on this forum, I've also been complimentary to both drivers. I am a great champion as well, thank you... thank you very much.

Actually quite a few of the forum members have been complimentary of both drivers and their contrasting styles and techniques and philosophies. So there are quite a few great champions here.

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#218260
f1ea wrote:
What's Burning? wrote:I am a great champion as well, thank you... thank you very much.
Please refer to Forumula1's headquartes to collect your trophy. ;):D
OH NO! does the forum administrator hand it to me personally?
#218318
spankyham wrote:
myownalias wrote:What's all this real champion bullsh*t? everyone that has won a world drivers title is a real champion whether you like the driver or not! :rolleyes:
For me a Champion isn't just about winning races. As a champion, I'd place Stirling Moss over all the current crop of drivers. That's not to say that some might not develop into the sort of champion he is. And, yes, as someone mentioned, he never won a WDC - but only because he decided he didn't want it on a bad stewards decision. For those of you who don't know, in the 1958 Hawthorn/Ferrari were penalised at the Portugal (I think?) GP. If SM had just said nothing, he was WDC for 1958. But, he went and spoke in favour of Ferrari, told the stewards that Ferrari hadn't broken the rules and got the stewards to reinstate Hawthorn/Ferrari. Hawthorn/Ferrari went on to beat SM by one point that year.

If you watch his recent interview, when he is asked about who is the better driver between Jenson and Lewis, he is complimentary to both drivers.

For me, he is a real champion.
Actually, he's a gentleman and he always played fair. As you've realised sometimes integrity is worth more than championships.
#218321
spankyham wrote:
myownalias wrote:What's all this real champion bullsh*t? everyone that has won a world drivers title is a real champion whether you like the driver or not! :rolleyes:
For me a Champion isn't just about winning races. As a champion, I'd place Stirling Moss over all the current crop of drivers. That's not to say that some might not develop into the sort of champion he is. And, yes, as someone mentioned, he never won a WDC - but only because he decided he didn't want it on a bad stewards decision. For those of you who don't know, in the 1958 Hawthorn/Ferrari were penalised at the Portugal (I think?) GP. If SM had just said nothing, he was WDC for 1958. But, he went and spoke in favour of Ferrari, told the stewards that Ferrari hadn't broken the rules and got the stewards to reinstate Hawthorn/Ferrari. Hawthorn/Ferrari went on to beat SM by one point that year.

If you watch his recent interview, when he is asked about who is the better driver between Jenson and Lewis, he is complimentary to both drivers.

For me, he is a real champion.
Moss is a real sportsman; I wouldn't agree he's a real champion! Most drivers these days would do whatever they can to get the win; even if that means cheating and lying!
#218324
myownalias wrote:Moss is a real sportsman; I wouldn't agree he's a real champion! Most drivers these days would do whatever they can to get the win; even if that means cheating and lying!
Ruthlessness is one of a champions qualities, that doesn't always include lying or cheating but it's not precluded either.
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