Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore" - Page 2

Re: Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore"#218178

By SimonB - 01 Oct 10, 21:10

- 01 Oct 10, 21:10#218178

Why even say it?

He was being interviewed by a German newspaper and I'd assume he was replying to a question about how he felt about Schumacher.

Fair enough, but, for me, a real champion, a la Stirling Moss, would have stuck with his original answer to that question, or just said he already answered that.

Stirling Moss was never world champion...

Re: Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore"#218180

By Ineluke - 01 Oct 10, 21:15

- 01 Oct 10, 21:15#218180

Lol, not quite the reaction you were looking for spankyham. Were you hoping this thread would turn into an anti Lewis thread.

MS sucks footballs..

Re: Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore"#218181

By Robert12010 - 01 Oct 10, 21:17

- 01 Oct 10, 21:17#218181

I think that Lewis like many drivers has purely been misqouted by the media which in many respects happens to others to.....

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Re: Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore"#218185

By stonemonkey - 01 Oct 10, 22:04

- 01 Oct 10, 22:04#218185

Why even say it?

He was being interviewed by a German newspaper and I'd assume he was replying to a question about how he felt about Schumacher.

Fair enough, but, for me, a real champion, a la Stirling Moss, would have stuck with his original answer to that question, or just said he already answered that.

Everyone who was expecting Schumacher to be competitive has been left disappointed, you would expect Moss (if he was one of those hopefuls) to lie?

To use my phone in the car I deleted all my German contacts, it's now Hans free.

Re: Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore"#218189

By racechick - 01 Oct 10, 23:17

- 01 Oct 10, 23:17#218189

I dont see the point here? The comment was not disrespectful, it was stating a fact. There is no kudos this year in beating Schumacher, why lie about it when asked? And why do you make the reference to Moss? Moss will always give his honest opinions when asked. As has been pointed out Moss was never world champion, a fantastic driver and ambassador for the sport, and 5 times runner up, but never champion. Lewis on the other hand is a real champion.

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Re: Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore"#218205

By myownalias - 02 Oct 10, 01:45

- 02 Oct 10, 01:45#218205

What's all this real champion bullsh*t? everyone that has won a world drivers title is a real champion whether you like the driver or not! :rolleyes:

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Re: Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore"#218214

By darwin dali - 02 Oct 10, 03:32

- 02 Oct 10, 03:32#218214

What's all this real champion bullsh*t? everyone that has won a world drivers title is a real champion whether you like the driver or not!

real champion as opposed to never a champion like Moss?

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Re: Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore"#218215

By spankyham - 02 Oct 10, 03:40

- 02 Oct 10, 03:40#218215

What's all this real champion bullsh*t? everyone that has won a world drivers title is a real champion whether you like the driver or not!

For me a Champion isn't just about winning races. As a champion, I'd place Stirling Moss over all the current crop of drivers. That's not to say that some might not develop into the sort of champion he is. And, yes, as someone mentioned, he never won a WDC - but only because he decided he didn't want it on a bad stewards decision. For those of you who don't know, in the 1958 Hawthorn/Ferrari were penalised at the Portugal (I think?) GP. If SM had just said nothing, he was WDC for 1958. But, he went and spoke in favour of Ferrari, told the stewards that Ferrari hadn't broken the rules and got the stewards to reinstate Hawthorn/Ferrari. Hawthorn/Ferrari went on to beat SM by one point that year.

If you watch his recent interview, when he is asked about who is the better driver between Jenson and Lewis, he is complimentary to both drivers.

For me, he is a real champion.

"He was the fastest driver I ever saw - faster even than Fangio"
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Re: Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore"#218246

By What's Burning? - 02 Oct 10, 14:29

- 02 Oct 10, 14:29#218246

In the thousand page long thread of Jenson vs. Lewis on this forum, I've also been complimentary to both drivers. I am a great champion as well, thank you... thank you very much.

Actually quite a few of the forum members have been complimentary of both drivers and their contrasting styles and techniques and philosophies. So there are quite a few great champions here.

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Re: Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore"#218248

By f1ea - 02 Oct 10, 14:32

- 02 Oct 10, 14:32#218248

I am a great champion as well, thank you... thank you very much.

Please refer to Forumula1's headquartes to collect your trophy.

Came out fighting indeed.

Re: Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore"#218260

By What's Burning? - 02 Oct 10, 15:01

- 02 Oct 10, 15:01#218260

I am a great champion as well, thank you... thank you very much.

Please refer to Forumula1's headquartes to collect your trophy.

OH NO! does the forum administrator hand it to me personally?

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Re: Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore"#218263

By oaba09 - 02 Oct 10, 15:10

- 02 Oct 10, 15:10#218263

Nothing disrespectful...He was just stating the truth...

Re: Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore"#218318

By racechick - 02 Oct 10, 19:10

- 02 Oct 10, 19:10#218318

What's all this real champion bullsh*t? everyone that has won a world drivers title is a real champion whether you like the driver or not!

For me a Champion isn't just about winning races. As a champion, I'd place Stirling Moss over all the current crop of drivers. That's not to say that some might not develop into the sort of champion he is. And, yes, as someone mentioned, he never won a WDC - but only because he decided he didn't want it on a bad stewards decision. For those of you who don't know, in the 1958 Hawthorn/Ferrari were penalised at the Portugal (I think?) GP. If SM had just said nothing, he was WDC for 1958. But, he went and spoke in favour of Ferrari, told the stewards that Ferrari hadn't broken the rules and got the stewards to reinstate Hawthorn/Ferrari. Hawthorn/Ferrari went on to beat SM by one point that year.

If you watch his recent interview, when he is asked about who is the better driver between Jenson and Lewis, he is complimentary to both drivers.

For me, he is a real champion.

Actually, he's a gentleman and he always played fair. As you've realised sometimes integrity is worth more than championships.

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Abe Lincoln

Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln

Re: Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore"#218321

By myownalias - 02 Oct 10, 19:18

- 02 Oct 10, 19:18#218321

What's all this real champion bullsh*t? everyone that has won a world drivers title is a real champion whether you like the driver or not!

For me a Champion isn't just about winning races. As a champion, I'd place Stirling Moss over all the current crop of drivers. That's not to say that some might not develop into the sort of champion he is. And, yes, as someone mentioned, he never won a WDC - but only because he decided he didn't want it on a bad stewards decision. For those of you who don't know, in the 1958 Hawthorn/Ferrari were penalised at the Portugal (I think?) GP. If SM had just said nothing, he was WDC for 1958. But, he went and spoke in favour of Ferrari, told the stewards that Ferrari hadn't broken the rules and got the stewards to reinstate Hawthorn/Ferrari. Hawthorn/Ferrari went on to beat SM by one point that year.

If you watch his recent interview, when he is asked about who is the better driver between Jenson and Lewis, he is complimentary to both drivers.

For me, he is a real champion.

Moss is a real sportsman; I wouldn't agree he's a real champion! Most drivers these days would do whatever they can to get the win; even if that means cheating and lying!

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Re: Hamilton - "No value in beating Schumacher anymore"#218324

By stonemonkey - 02 Oct 10, 19:25

- 02 Oct 10, 19:25#218324

Moss is a real sportsman; I wouldn't agree he's a real champion! Most drivers these days would do whatever they can to get the win; even if that means cheating and lying!

Ruthlessness is one of a champions qualities, that doesn't always include lying or cheating but it's not precluded either.

To use my phone in the car I deleted all my German contacts, it's now Hans free.

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