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#217273
Hamilton said himself that Webber was in his blind spot, and thus must surely have known that if he was going to turn in then Webber might have been there somewhere! Hamilton could just have left more space like Kubica did in his similar move later on. I don't know what the hell people are expecting that Webber himself should have done to avoid that incident, it's laughable to suggest he should have a penalty really. He was almost alongside when Hamilton started turning in.

At least we have some consistency from the stewards now - no penalties given for any of the similar incidents we've had today and recently.


Consistency?? It seems they've penalised Hulkenberg and Suthil retrospecively. Suthil committed his 'crime' on turn 7 of the first lap!! What were the stewards doing? Crosswords?

Just watched the highlights. Lewis had that corner and Webber just ran into him.
#217274
hello all
alonso was lucky to win race with two red bull cars behind him and it would be nice to see a red bull team win drivers championship and constructors championship nice to see mark webber back in racing form at grand prix,what does hamilton think he is doing trying to take out mark webber with a silly dirty overtaking like that.all good results come to those who drive sensible,i dont know what hamilton was trying to achieve by making a silly mistake like that and that is his third time making a mostake at 3 different grand prix events.also ferrari changed an engine or a gear box in on massa car and i know he started from last place on the grid but how come he didnt get a grid penalty for next race like force india got in a previous race where i think it was italy other than that the grand prix was great.bring on the next race as it will be a great end to the f1 calender.the circuit at singapore is very testing for drivers and teams.vettel and webber hopefully take all the trophys away at the end of the season.i am not following any team in particular but every time a certain team does someting wrong like the comments from the team saying that one driver is faster than the other that is obvious to anyone.
:clap: for webber :drink: for vettel
#217275
Surprised to hear Vettel quoted as saying that he settled for 2nd place.

"You need to look at the risk, whether a move is possible or not, and if it's not possible you don't try."

Maybe he's learning.
#217278
hello all
alonso was lucky to win race with two red bull cars behind him and it would be nice to see a red bull team win drivers championship and constructors championship nice to see mark webber back in racing form at grand prix,what does hamilton think he is doing trying to take out mark webber with a silly dirty overtaking like that.all good results come to those who drive sensible,i dont know what hamilton was trying to achieve by making a silly mistake like that and that is his third time making a mostake at 3 different grand prix events.also ferrari changed an engine or a gear box in on massa car and i know he started from last place on the grid but how come he didnt get a grid penalty for next race like force india got in a previous race where i think it was italy other than that the grand prix was great.bring on the next race as it will be a great end to the f1 calender.the circuit at singapore is very testing for drivers and teams.vettel and webber hopefully take all the trophys away at the end of the season.i am not following any team in particular but every time a certain team does someting wrong like the comments from the team saying that one driver is faster than the other that is obvious to anyone.
:clap: for webber :drink: for vettel

Um... hello europa. Your first post seems a little confused. Too many drinks for Vettel, maybe? You claim "i am not following any team in particular" yet your post is sprinkled with hopes for a Red Bull win. You call Alonso's masterful win "lucky" and also slam Lewis for a "silly dirty" overtaking move. I think you need to re-examine your statement about having no preferences.
#217279
Hamilton said himself that Webber was in his blind spot, and thus must surely have known that if he was going to turn in then Webber might have been there somewhere! Hamilton could just have left more space like Kubica did in his similar move later on. I don't know what the hell people are expecting that Webber himself should have done to avoid that incident, it's laughable to suggest he should have a penalty really. He was almost alongside when Hamilton started turning in.

At least we have some consistency from the stewards now - no penalties given for any of the similar incidents we've had today and recently.


Consistency?? It seems they've penalised Hulkenberg and Suthil retrospecively.

Just watched the highlights. Lewis had that corner and Webber just ran into him.


Those penalties were for corner cutting, not racing incidents. So yep, it seems they are being more consistent now. I've seen the replay of the crash countless times now. Webber ran into Hamilton just as much as Hamilton turned into Webber.
#217283
Webber should have been penalized.

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Why? I watched a legit move by both drivers which could have gone either way?

Lewis was already a half-car length ahead of Mark. It was time for the Red Bull to pull back a tiny bit. I think he did it on purpose...

Why in Gods name should the car/driver who has the racing line and is fighting for position "pull back"?? Honestly some of the comments and opinions here are simply ludicrous :rolleyes: !



you keep saying this, but its not true the outside, mid track line is the racing line into turn 7 webber was trying to force the position back by getting it up the inside yes, but he was never gonna make it to the corner in time with hamilton ahead, even if only half a car length, its still only a racing incident but its definitely not on the back of hamilton for causing it.
#217284
Surprised to hear Vettel quoted as saying that he settled for 2nd place.

"You need to look at the risk, whether a move is possible or not, and if it's not possible you don't try."

Maybe he's learning.

Fingers crossed. Just hope it's not too late.
#217286
Hamilton said himself that Webber was in his blind spot, and thus must surely have known that if he was going to turn in then Webber might have been there somewhere! Hamilton could just have left more space like Kubica did in his similar move later on. I don't know what the hell people are expecting that Webber himself should have done to avoid that incident, it's laughable to suggest he should have a penalty really. He was almost alongside when Hamilton started turning in.

At least we have some consistency from the stewards now - no penalties given for any of the similar incidents we've had today and recently.


Consistency?? It seems they've penalised Hulkenberg and Suthil retrospecively.

Just watched the highlights. Lewis had that corner and Webber just ran into him.


Those penalties were for corner cutting, not racing incidents. So yep, it seems they are being more consistent now. I've seen the replay of the crash countless times now. Webber ran into Hamilton just as much as Hamilton turned into Webber.

I know they were for corner cutting but when it takes them 2hrs to decide someone has corner cut it kindov suggests they arent being too sharp about things.
#217289
you dont make any sense smokin whe you say my post is confusing i think you should read it again and i it goes to say smokin that hamilton was confused as well when he was talking to tv repoters after race and he said he didnt know what happened and he should have got a drive through penalty for cutting in a webber like that how did expect when he was only half a car length ahead there was no way he could have past with such a corner like that coming up.maybe now hamilton will get use those wing mirrors in future.when he stopped and he knew his race was over he was a spoilt child throwing his toys out the play pen when he didnt get his own way he needs to learn how to drive a bit better at corners they seemed to be his weakest area if they last 3 races are anything to go by.
#217290
you dont make any sense smokin whe you say my post is confusing i think you should read it again and i it goes to say smokin that hamilton was confused as well when he was talking to tv repoters after race and he said he didnt know what happened and he should have got a drive through penalty for cutting in a webber like that how did expect when he was only half a car length ahead there was no way he could have past with such a corner like that coming up.maybe now hamilton will get use those wing mirrors in future.when he stopped and he knew his race was over he was a spoilt child throwing his toys out the play pen when he didnt get his own way he needs to learn how to drive a bit better at corners they seemed to be his weakest area if they last 3 races are anything to go by.

Hey, pause for breath in your posts, buddy! You'll bust an artery if you're not careful. :)
#217291
lewis never had that corner he was going to quick in to that corner he would have ran wide he didnt let up and let webber have a clean line and for people to say webber ran into him is wrong because webber had the racing line and the corner and it was his to take hamilton should know better.maybe he practice a bit more on his simulator with his brother.i think hamilton will have to get used to retiring.3 races and counting and with no points from 3 races he is under more pressure to keep pushing to get points.
#217294
lewis never had that corner he was going to quick in to that corner he would have ran wide he didnt let up and let webber have a clean line and for people to say webber ran into him is wrong because webber had the racing line and the corner and it was his to take hamilton should know better.maybe he practice a bit more on his simulator with his brother.i think hamilton will have to get used to retiring.3 races and counting and with no points from 3 races he is under more pressure to keep pushing to get points.


2 races with no points. Not 3. He won at Spa, remember?

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

You remind me of AKR without the charm and likeability.
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