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[MAD MAX]

I have read all the comments after yours as well and it appears many Ferrari haters are hoping Ferrari get punished. Well bad news is, that it will not happen.

Ahh, so your now on the FIA now are you, I don't know, you don't know, even the drivers themselves don't know what the likely outcome is likely to be, so wind your irritable neck in until its all decided, by then FIA and not some keyboard warrior like yourself

[billindenver]

I have read all the comments after yours as well and it appears many Ferrari haters are hoping Ferrari get punished. Well bad news is, that it will not happen.

Ahh, so your now on the FIA now are you, I don't know, you don't know, even the drivers themselves don't know what the likely outcome is likely to be, so wind your irritable neck in until its all decided, by then FIA and not some keyboard warrior like yourself

[MAD MAX]

Oh dear, another forum wind up merchant, and wannabe car driver

[Jabberwocky]

KEEP IT CIVIL AND NO PERSONAL ATTACKS OR INSULTS UNLESS YOU LIKE FISHING

[Gaz]

I have read all the comments after yours as well and it appears many Ferrari haters are hoping Ferrari get punished. Well bad news is, that it will not happen.

Ahh, so your now on the FIA now are you, I don't know, you don't know, even the drivers themselves don't know what the likely outcome is likely to be, so wind your irritable neck in until its all decided, by then FIA and not some keyboard warrior like yourself

People in Glass houses shouldnt throw stones herbie boy.

[nish2280]

I have read all the comments after yours as well and it appears many Ferrari haters are hoping Ferrari get punished. Well bad news is, that it will not happen.

Ahh, so your now on the FIA now are you, I don't know, you don't know, even the drivers themselves don't know what the likely outcome is likely to be, so wind your irritable neck in until its all decided, by then FIA and not some keyboard warrior like yourself

People in Glass houses shouldnt throw stones herbie boy.

I dont get the joke

[myownalias]

Enough; back to the original topic please, is it not possible to accept someone else's opinion without throwing insults? I do wonder sometimes!

[What's Burning?]

Enough; back to the original topic please, is it not possible to accept someone else's opinion without throwing insults? I do wonder sometimes!

Oh the irony of that statement when it's sitting an inch above your signature line?

[7UpJordan]

Ferrari will be made to paint "ROMANES EUNT DOMUS" over their entire HQ.

[vaptin]

Why the f*** is this hearing so late? It only benefits Ferrari anyway, their lawyers will be working away.

[Fred_C_Dobbs]

Ferrari will be made to paint "ROMANES EUNT DOMUS" over their entire HQ.

[Wernher]

Everybody is going on about team orders and handing out punishment about this.

What I don't understand is why the last couple of years this has been an issue and for approximately 50 years before that there was never an issue.

Why do "teams" have a no 1 and no 2 drivers or two cars for that matter if team orders will not be allowed, does not make sense really.

[myownalias]

Enough; back to the original topic please, is it not possible to accept someone else's opinion without throwing insults? I do wonder sometimes!

Oh the irony of that statement when it's sitting an inch above your signature line?

I see what you mean; but the two lines of my signature are meant to be one entity...

[NocturnalTendencies]

One would think Ferrari could have told their drivers "before" the race that if the opportunity arose; let Alonso pass and don't say a word about it over the wire.

[vaptin]

Good article up from the bbc just outlining the facts, not an opinion piece.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 964502.stm

Note this:

151.c, which says "any fraudulent conduct or any act prejudicial to the interests of any competition, or to the interests of motorsport generally" can be punished.

They haven't been charged with "bringing the sport in disrepute".

Ferrari could use a similar incident at the Australian Grand Prix, when Massa did not yield position to Alonso despite being told the Spaniard was the faster of the two Ferrari drivers, as part of their defence.

"As we did in Melbourne, so too in Hockenheim, we informed the drivers about the situation on track," stated Domenicali.

"After that, it was up to them to take certain decisions, based as always on the best interests of the team."

Interesting, diddn't occur to me to go down that line, although of course the team radio we here is limited, but I wasn't aware Ferrari used similar phrases in that situation.

There is a sense amongst other F1 teams that neither Ferrari nor their drivers should be penalised further.

The 12 teams within the paddock are keen to operate in the harmonious atmosphere that has been fostered since the formation of the Formula 1 Teams' Association (Fota) in 2008.

There is also a feeling that the teams would prefer the rule banning team orders to be abolished because it is difficult to enforce.

If the rule was removed, the teams would instead tacitly agree not to use team orders as much as possible.

There is, however, understood to be a conflict within the FIA over the preferred outcome of Wednesday's disciplinary hearing.

That's new to me as well, thought the rival teams were gunning for punishment.

FIA president Jean Todt has excluded himself from the process to avoid a conflict of interests arising from his previous role as Ferrari team boss. Deputy Graham Stoker will preside over the Paris hearing.

Just putting that in cos in clears things up.

The incident provoked a widespread backlash against Ferrari, with some teams saying the incident damaged the sport's credibility.

That's not new.