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[Hammer278]

Lewis is one of the least moaners on the grid,he goes out and races 100% no matter how the car is, he does not make pathetic excuses week in and week out like Jenson Button.

There's the rose tinted glasses view again, Lewis has done his fair share of moaning this season; especially early season when Jenson was getting the better results. Frankly most of the drivers on the grid these days are primadonnas, too much complaining about things they cannot change and not enough racing.

I might be having rose tinted glasses in my head blocking the parts where Lewis 'moaned' this season though I'd appreciate if you could point out a couple of those moaning lines to me?

[myownalias]

There has been a number of times this season where Hamilton has complained to his team over the radio, I know he had a good moan over the radio in Australia (the same race in which Jenson Button won) about pitlane strategy, can't remember specifics beyond that. I'm sure that there are some people on this forum can name the races and what was said, I neither have the inclination or time to search them out.

[Ineluke]

There has been a number of times this season where Hamilton has complained to his team over the radio, I know he had a good moan over the radio in Australia (the same race in which Jenson Button won) about pitlane strategy, can't remember specifics beyond that. I'm sure that there are some people on this forum can name the races and what was said, I neither have the inclination or time to search them out.

So you can only think of one time,that hardly accouts for him being a moaner or any where near Alonso when it comes to moaning.
Jenson has moaned more especially when he has been behind someone he can't pass. If their is anyone who needs to shut up and race then it's Jenson.
All drivers will moan but there are some who are over the top with excuses and moaning, Jenson is one one them.

[racechick]

To be fair , neither Jenson nor Lewis have 'moaned' this year. They've pointed out the car needs to improve but also regularly aknowledge the work done by the team. Neither moan about the treatment received by themselves from the team and neither moan about wanting favours over their team mate. When asked about lack of pace jenson doesnt moan, he says he cant get a balance, he doesnt look to pass the blame.

[myownalias]

Let's face it; nearly all modern F1 drivers 'moan' when things aren't going well with the exception of Kamui Kobayashi who just takes it on the chin and moves on, I like his "s*** happens" attitude. On Lewis; his general attitude after the Turkish GP was sub-par at best; so what; he got overtaken by his team mate; Jenson had conserved fuel better so didn't get the call to switch to fuel saving mode until a lap afterwards. Like RC said; I don't think that there are any team orders in the McLaren garage, Lewis is simply a better driver of an unbalanced car; as I said in a balanced car, I wouldn't like to call it before the two Brits. Lewis is a very talented driver but he has his flaws as much as the next driver. Jenson needs to step up to the plate, I make no excuses for him; the last race was woeful from him.

[SaintDean]

Lewis and Jenson have both been spoon fed excuses

[MattMK45]

F1 today is as much as an engineer's wet dream in terms of downforce and speed than it is racing. But we still love it!

[Fred_C_Dobbs]

As the sport has evolved, the cars have become more sophisticated and the role of the driver more specialised. Now, drivers do little more than the essential functions: turn the steering wheel, press the accelerator pedal, press the brake pedal, slap the flappy paddle shifter, adjust brake bias and fiddle with the front wing adjustment. Although the act of shifting still is commanded by he driver, the process itself is performed by a computer-controlled mechanism that is virtually impervious to error (read: no more missed shifts). As many functions as possible that are not fundamental to the operation of the car have been seconded to a sort of "thinking specialist" who sits at the pit wall, watching TV monitors and reading computer monitors, collaborating with higher team officials and, when necessary, relaying his decisions to the driver. All mental operations -- deciding how hard to push, who and when to pass, when to pit, and even the monitoring of fuel consumption and system indications -- are the province of the race engineer. The cars unarguably are the faster for it but the sporting aspect, IMHO, is equally diminished by it.

That so many of the current crop of drivers so often sound like whiners I think is more an indictment of what passes for manhood in the 21st Century than it is of F1. I'm sure Ascari and Fangio and Moss all complained in their day, they just did it in a more demanding, less feminine fashion. James Hunt probably was the manliest complainer of all because he was prone to punctuating his complaints with a large serving of knuckles. Was he complaining? Certainly, but no one ever told him so to his face.

Ernest Hemingway was fond of saying that the only real sports were mountain climbing, bull fighting and motor racing, the others all were just games. But if he could see this lot, I think that list might be one "sport" shorter.