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[scotty]

Maybe Renault need a big name as Kubica might be on his way somewhere else

Where though? Mercedes if Schumacher retired? (Which i think is unlikely)

I think, come the end of the season, Renault will be very close to Mercedes in terms of points, if not ahead. A lot of it depends on whether or not Petrov can start to score points regularly, I guess.

As much as I want Kimi back in F1, I'm not sure I want Vitaly to lose his place. He is talented and promising, he just needs time to mature and I think Renault can help him become a regular winner if they can get him to calm down and perform consistently.

Agreed about Renault. They're having a great strike rate with car developments (a sympton of bringing back the aero guys i mentioned before?) and Mercedes are most definitely not... and as for Petrov, even if he did end up leaving Renault i don't think he'd have a problem getting a drive elsewhere, he's shown a lot of potential on track and off it has all the marketing potential plus financial backing. Surely a great choice for many teams in the midfield - Sauber spring to mind (i don't see De la Rosa being on the grid next season).

:yikes: are we forgetting that Kimmi has a problem with defending if he doesn't have the best car........ Adelaide hairpin anyone?

bringing Kimmi back would be a mistake... There are better drivers out there who know how to defend... Alonso for instance.

If Renault can't keep the existing line up, then they should be chasing Kobayashi, he showed great patience, race pace and race craft last race. Really out performed the car.

Are you talking about the incident where he ran wide on oil at Magny-Cours? I think you're forgetting race like Spa '04 where he beat Schumacher, in a straight fight, in a far inferior car, and of course THAT drive at Suzuka. I like Kobayashi but he's been very hit and miss this season, and did get a huge slice of luck last time out. He's not even near the same league as Raikkonen...

[Hexagram]

:yikes: are we forgetting that Kimmi has a problem with defending if he doesn't have the best car........ Adelaide hairpin anyone?

bringing Kimmi back would be a mistake... There are better drivers out there who know how to defend... Alonso for instance.

If Renault can't keep the existing line up, then they should be chasing Kobayashi, he showed great patience, race pace and race craft last race. Really out performed the car.

Are you talking about the incident where he ran wide on oil at Magny-Cours? I think you're forgetting race like Spa '04 where he beat Schumacher, in a straight fight, in a far inferior car, and of course THAT drive at Suzuka. I like Kobayashi but he's been very hit and miss this season, and did get a huge slice of luck last time out. He's not even near the same league as Raikkonen...

That move on Fisi at Suzuka was just insane. Best overtake in F1 for the last 10 years. Only Mika at Spa on Schumacher rivals it but even then it wasn't as epic since Kimi did it on the last lap.

[jdessain]

On the French version of MadeInMotorsport.com i saw that Renault wants Mikhail Aleshin too.

He is Russian (=money) and he is a good driver (leading the FR 3.5, where were Vettel, Kubica, Alguersuari before coming in F1). He already drove the Renault R29 F1 for show in Magny-Cours two weeks ago...

And I saw too that Raikkonen will be the testing driver with Heidfeld for Pirelli with the Toyota of 2009.

madeinmotorsport are French so I think they know well Renault and this is the old team of F1-live, before ESPN F1 (s***), so I think that we can trust them.

[jdessain]

And FR means formula RENAULT

[Jamie]

Good Reanult + A Pumped up Raikkonen?

Can only mean

[GIFFMISTER]

Raikkonen has for sure got the best driving skill followed by Alonso. These pair teamed up in the Ferrari garage would be the best form that F1 has seen in a long time for sure.

[smokin]

Raikkonen has for sure got the best driving skill followed by Alonso. These pair teamed up in the Ferrari garage would be the best form that F1 has seen in a long time for sure.

I've lost the thread here (pun intended). Isn't the thread about Raikkonen to Renault? How do you pair him with Alonso at Ferrari?

[vaptin]

It was one of those hypothetical things, there was a chance last year for Alonso and Kimi to be in the same team. He wasn't actually suggesting it was going to happen.

[smokin]

It was one of those hypothetical things, there was a chance last year for Alonso and Kimi to be in the same team. He wasn't actually suggesting it was going to happen.

Hypothetically, Alonso and Raikkonen might work. Raikkonen's "whatever" approach could balance Alonso's more fiery temperament, although I'm betting that there would still be 'issues' when Raikkonen starts getting the better of him. Alonso's an immensely talented driver but he needs to get his head sorted and stop beating himself.

[myownalias]

Raikkonen is not going to Ferrari, Massa has been confirmed for next year and I doubt that Raikkonen would go back to Ferrari after he was dumped in favour of Alonso, I still doubt that he would want to come back to F1 at all; he seems to be loving the WRC judging by his animated interviews he gives; we never saw that in F1!

[racechick]

It was one of those hypothetical things, there was a chance last year for Alonso and Kimi to be in the same team. He wasn't actually suggesting it was going to happen.

Hypothetically, Alonso and Raikkonen might work. Raikkonen's "whatever" approach could balance Alonso's more fiery temperament, although I'm betting that there would still be 'issues' when Raikkonen starts getting the better of him. Alonso's an immensely talented driver but he needs to get his head sorted and stop beating himself.

Talented driver yes. but BIG psychological flaw. An on song Kimi would wipe the floor(pun intended)

[smokin]

It was one of those hypothetical things, there was a chance last year for Alonso and Kimi to be in the same team. He wasn't actually suggesting it was going to happen.

Hypothetically, Alonso and Raikkonen might work. Raikkonen's "whatever" approach could balance Alonso's more fiery temperament, although I'm betting that there would still be 'issues' when Raikkonen starts getting the better of him. Alonso's an immensely talented driver but he needs to get his head sorted and stop beating himself.

Talented driver yes. but BIG psychological flaw. An on song Kimi would wipe the floor(pun intended)

No argument from me. Alonso's doing quite well in the World Cup, though.

[racechick]

Yes he is .


Kubica and Kimi would be an interesting pair together. I wonder how Kubica would handle that?....Presuming Kimi was on top form.

[vindicator86]

:yikes: are we forgetting that Kimmi has a problem with defending if he doesn't have the best car........ Adelaide hairpin anyone?

bringing Kimmi back would be a mistake... There are better drivers out there who know how to defend... Alonso for instance.

If Renault can't keep the existing line up, then they should be chasing Kobayashi, he showed great patience, race pace and race craft last race. Really out performed the car.

I thought there was oil on the track at the adelaide hairpin that race.

EDIT: Sorry, Scotty beat me to it .

[Jamie]

I would enjoy seeing him race again, I think he would be doing the reverse of Alonso, knowing Alonso's luck. Raikkonen first season? WDC