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#168103
i beginning to think renault will pull out too, and then theyre will be only a couple of teams left to support, which im not really tied to, that and all the races going to the far east on boring tracks, more and more im wondering how long im gonna be watching f1, i hope renault can stay one more season so i can get to see them at a venue at least once,

oh well :(
#168126
^ whoops thats me, forgot to log out then in again

Naughty. :P

I am not going to really miss Toyota, they never seemed to have a clue what they were doing, especially when they paid over the odds for Ralf. I certainly won't miss that boring livery of theirs either.

But all the same, if a buyer was found to take over the team entity that wouldn't be bad, because Toyota had some excellent equipment and could actually make a good car, perhaps a new owner who knows what he's doing might be able to pull off a Brawn and show Toyota what they and their boardroom staff have been doing wrong all these years.
#168128
^ whoops thats me, forgot to log out then in again

Naughty. :P

I am not going to really miss Toyota, they never seemed to have a clue what they were doing, especially when they paid over the odds for Ralf. I certainly won't miss that boring livery of theirs either.

But all the same, if a buyer was found to take over the team entity that wouldn't be bad, because Toyota had some excellent equipment and could actually make a good car, perhaps a new owner who knows what he's doing might be able to pull off a Brawn and show Toyota what they and their boardroom staff have been doing wrong all these years.


it would be very excellent if they could find a buyer, but not so good for Sauber's chances methinks
#168132
it would be very excellent if they could find a buyer, but not so good for Sauber's chances methinks

I think this will depend on Renault's future after todays' announcement about their problems.
#168135
They will probably have to pay out for a penalty clause.

[Edit] looks like the big issue here is that they want to know how Toyota plans to do their withdrawal if they are going to sell the team on along with the Concorde agreement then Sauber still have no place.
#168173
Other than the FIA, FOTA has commented already:
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=47377

Moreover, a Ferrari statement blames the FIA for the teams' departure
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=47380

I hope to see Renault next year on the grid, they can still contribute to a good 2010 season IMO!
#168178
Ferrari blaming the FIA; I've never heard such nonsense! :P When are Ferrari not throwing mud at the FIA?

I think Toyota posting the biggest loss in company history may have something to do with it!
#168221
Bit poo, expected though.
Kobayshi will probs be left out now. :thumbdown:


he said he will have to go back to Japan and work for his dads Sushi shop as he cant afford GP2 funding. unless he can get some sponsors after his impressive F1 debut!


Yeah, but he wasn't anything special in GP2.
Lets hope he stays in F1
#168229
It is not good news at all for the F1 that Toyota is leaving.
Although during the years they didn't have to much success, Toyota along with Bmw and Honda made the F1 A much more attractive and prestige brand.
I also think that the departure of these 3 teams will in A way empower Ferrari and McLaren- Mercedes inside the F1.
#168231
Losing Honda and BMW is more galling than losing Toyota imo. They have contributed nothing positive to the sport and have wasted lots of money. BMW and Honda are proper car companies founded by an individual or group who had specific and unique ideas about how a car/bike should be and it shows in their products. Toyota cars are a commercial extension of Toyota industries and were set up to make money by selling cars, not to make a statement about how the ideal car should be. This is why their products are mediocre and why they have shown a consistent inability to innovate throughout their entire car-making history. Honda and BMW in one form or another have been successfully competing in top level motorsport from a very early point in each of the companies histories. The same is true of Renault and Mercedes, the other two manufacturer entities in F1. Except for brief forays in to WRC and Sportscars (both with some success), Toyota have little in the way of motorsport pedigree, certainly not when compared to all the other manufacturers represented in F1 in 2008.

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