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headless wrote:Bit poo, expected though.he said he will have to go back to Japan and work for his dads Sushi shop as he cant afford GP2 funding. unless he can get some sponsors after his impressive F1 debut!
Kobayshi will probs be left out now.
Frosty wrote:I just hope Sauber can now take their place. Toyota, BMW, Honda are all examples of how an F1 team should not be managed!The sole problem with BMW was their lack of persistence. They did a great job and achieved their goals in every season but 2009, improving year after year. One year things did not go so well, and they quit. In the end, they obviously didn't care much about F1...
Hansy wrote:Indeed. Toyota on the other hand were simply hopeless, apparently completely unaware of how to run an F1 Team.Frosty wrote:I just hope Sauber can now take their place. Toyota, BMW, Honda are all examples of how an F1 team should not be managed!The sole problem with BMW was their lack of persistence. They did a great job and achieved their goals in every season but 2009, improving year after year. One year things did not go so well, and they quit. In the end, they obviously didn't care much about F1...
Jensonb wrote:The reason why I say those 3 teams is because BMW ran away after one slightly difficult season, Toyota just didn't know how to run an F1 team or how to win a race which they should of done at Bahrain, Honda did a knee jerk reaction and pulled out even knowing that they probably had a decent car. This was all because the very top decisions were made by board directors in Tokyo or some other random place the sort of people who don't go to any races or give a crap about the sport.Hansy wrote:Indeed. Toyota on the other hand were simply hopeless, apparently completely unaware of how to run an F1 Team.Frosty wrote:I just hope Sauber can now take their place. Toyota, BMW, Honda are all examples of how an F1 team should not be managed!The sole problem with BMW was their lack of persistence. They did a great job and achieved their goals in every season but 2009, improving year after year. One year things did not go so well, and they quit. In the end, they obviously didn't care much about F1...
Frosty wrote:Yes, exactly. That kind of corporate mentality simply does not work in F1.Jensonb wrote:The reason why I say those 3 teams is because BMW ran away after one slightly difficult season, Toyota just didn't know how to run an F1 team or how to win a race which they should of done at Bahrain, Honda did a knee jerk reaction and pulled out even knowing that they probably had a decent car. This was all because the very top decisions were made by board directors in Tokyo or some other random place the sort of people who don't go to any races or give a crap about the sport.Hansy wrote:Indeed. Toyota on the other hand were simply hopeless, apparently completely unaware of how to run an F1 Team.Frosty wrote:I just hope Sauber can now take their place. Toyota, BMW, Honda are all examples of how an F1 team should not be managed!The sole problem with BMW was their lack of persistence. They did a great job and achieved their goals in every season but 2009, improving year after year. One year things did not go so well, and they quit. In the end, they obviously didn't care much about F1...
Jensonb wrote:goes back to what i said earlier that they do not exist for F1, so a big ? will always exist on such teams. Renault is prime example, while Mercedes not being a 100% constructor is still not a certainty either.Frosty wrote:Yes, exactly. That kind of corporate mentality simply does not work in F1.Jensonb wrote:The reason why I say those 3 teams is because BMW ran away after one slightly difficult season, Toyota just didn't know how to run an F1 team or how to win a race which they should of done at Bahrain, Honda did a knee jerk reaction and pulled out even knowing that they probably had a decent car. This was all because the very top decisions were made by board directors in Tokyo or some other random place the sort of people who don't go to any races or give a crap about the sport.Hansy wrote:Indeed. Toyota on the other hand were simply hopeless, apparently completely unaware of how to run an F1 Team.Frosty wrote:I just hope Sauber can now take their place. Toyota, BMW, Honda are all examples of how an F1 team should not be managed!The sole problem with BMW was their lack of persistence. They did a great job and achieved their goals in every season but 2009, improving year after year. One year things did not go so well, and they quit. In the end, they obviously didn't care much about F1...
cap-dude wrote:We only have 4 engine suppliers now. Next year's grid looks to be a weird one.I'm guessing they'll still pay the entry fee for a season, each season until 2012... if teams actually do that.
One question, did Toyota not sign an agreement during the whole break-away saga saying they will compete until 2012? How are they getting out of that one. I mean, BMW left early just so they could avoid that agreement.
cap-dude wrote:We only have 4 engine suppliers now. Next year's grid looks to be a weird one.They could try and do a Honda/Brawn thing and thus avoid a substantial penalty due to breach of contract (that's what I'd think it is). At any rate, BE will see to it that it'll be costly for Toyota.
One question, did Toyota not sign an agreement during the whole break-away saga saying they will compete until 2012? How are they getting out of that one. I mean, BMW left early just so they could avoid that agreement.
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