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By darwin dali
#165448
Is there any news on what will become of BMW, is there any news of a buy out??

You mean BMW-Sauber, doncha? :wink:
Qadbak bought them out.
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By scotty
#165450
A quick summary would be that Qadbak Investments have bought the team and they have got a supply of Ferrari engines for next season, but the potential driver lineup is far from clear right now, and there is a chance they may not make it onto the grid - it is highly unlikely that we will see 14 teams on the grid next season (unfortunately) so it would seem that their entry depends on an existing 2010 team dropping out.
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By headless
#165459
They aint gonna be in
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By yamashek
#165530
They aint gonna be in


Especially with Williams being the party pooper


are they like that in the past like in the early 90's or 80's? being a party pooper?
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By 7UpJordan
#165550
They aint gonna be in


Especially with Williams being the party pooper

It's not just Williams, other teams including Campos are trying to get Quadbak veto'd as well, and mainly because of the fact Quadbak don't appear to have done anything more since they were confirmed to be taking over BMW.
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By bud
#166173
While there seems to be a general consensus that 14 teams in Formula One is too many for the current infrastructure, McLaren Mercedes is keen to see the current BMW Sauber team continue in the sport next season.

BMW announced its exit from Formula One in the summer, but significantly did not sign the Concorde Agreement before the new deal with Qadbak Investments was put into place. With just 13 teams permitted under the current rules, the mysterious new owners are now relying on the existing teams to agree before they can be allowed to compete.

“We have a lot of sympathy,” explained McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh. “The people who work at Hinwil - the Sauber facility in Switzerland - are a good group and have worked hard over the years and certainly McLaren would not want to do anything that would potentially jeopardise their ability to continue in the sport. One, because the people there deserve the opportunity to race and, two, it would be damaging to the sport – to lose a well [established] team such as them.

“McLaren’s position is that we have been that we would agree to 14 teams – if that 14th team were them.

We would help facilitate that [but] in the event that they or any other team failed, then we would see the number of teams marginally reduced. 14 is above the optimum number of teams, but we would make an exception in the case of BMW Sauber.”

While Mario Theissen - the BMW motorsport director - has the support of McLaren, Williams has made clear that is against the addition of a 14th team. The FIA has said that they will “be consulting urgently” with the existing outfits to allow BMW Sauber to compete.

Martin Whitmarsh was speaking to ESPN's Racing-Live as part of the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes pre-race phone-in.
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By texasmr2
#166185
They aint gonna be in


Especially with Williams being the party pooper


are they like that in the past like in the early 90's or 80's? being a party pooper?

Somewhat because Sir Frank rules with an iron fist and some of his decisions have been quite controversial over the years but he is not to be questioned about his decisions.
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By 7UpJordan
#166194
While there seems to be a general consensus that 14 teams in Formula One is too many for the current infrastructure, McLaren Mercedes is keen to see the current BMW Sauber team continue in the sport next season.

BMW announced its exit from Formula One in the summer, but significantly did not sign the Concorde Agreement before the new deal with Qadbak Investments was put into place. With just 13 teams permitted under the current rules, the mysterious new owners are now relying on the existing teams to agree before they can be allowed to compete.

“We have a lot of sympathy,” explained McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh. “The people who work at Hinwil - the Sauber facility in Switzerland - are a good group and have worked hard over the years and certainly McLaren would not want to do anything that would potentially jeopardise their ability to continue in the sport. One, because the people there deserve the opportunity to race and, two, it would be damaging to the sport – to lose a well [established] team such as them.

“McLaren’s position is that we have been that we would agree to 14 teams – if that 14th team were them.

We would help facilitate that [but] in the event that they or any other team failed, then we would see the number of teams marginally reduced. 14 is above the optimum number of teams, but we would make an exception in the case of BMW Sauber.”

While Mario Theissen - the BMW motorsport director - has the support of McLaren, Williams has made clear that is against the addition of a 14th team. The FIA has said that they will “be consulting urgently” with the existing outfits to allow BMW Sauber to compete.

Martin Whitmarsh was speaking to ESPN's Racing-Live as part of the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes pre-race phone-in.

That's quite interesting, because didn't McLaren express an interest in buying out BMW's F1 engine development division or something along those lines a few weeks ago?
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By Denthúl
#166195
While there seems to be a general consensus that 14 teams in Formula One is too many for the current infrastructure, McLaren Mercedes is keen to see the current BMW Sauber team continue in the sport next season.

BMW announced its exit from Formula One in the summer, but significantly did not sign the Concorde Agreement before the new deal with Qadbak Investments was put into place. With just 13 teams permitted under the current rules, the mysterious new owners are now relying on the existing teams to agree before they can be allowed to compete.

“We have a lot of sympathy,” explained McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh. “The people who work at Hinwil - the Sauber facility in Switzerland - are a good group and have worked hard over the years and certainly McLaren would not want to do anything that would potentially jeopardise their ability to continue in the sport. One, because the people there deserve the opportunity to race and, two, it would be damaging to the sport – to lose a well [established] team such as them.

“McLaren’s position is that we have been that we would agree to 14 teams – if that 14th team were them.

We would help facilitate that [but] in the event that they or any other team failed, then we would see the number of teams marginally reduced. 14 is above the optimum number of teams, but we would make an exception in the case of BMW Sauber.”

While Mario Theissen - the BMW motorsport director - has the support of McLaren, Williams has made clear that is against the addition of a 14th team. The FIA has said that they will “be consulting urgently” with the existing outfits to allow BMW Sauber to compete.

Martin Whitmarsh was speaking to ESPN's Racing-Live as part of the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes pre-race phone-in.

That's quite interesting, because didn't McLaren express an interest in buying out BMW's F1 engine development division or something along those lines a few weeks ago?


All the more motivation for them to help out. ;)
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By bud
#166264
But really they are helping out Sauber and not BMW, but I hope they do buy out the BMW engines if this helps somehow bring the price down then great :D
Anyways Whitmarsh's reasoning is just, Sauber has everything set up already compared to some of the newer entries and it would be a shame to lose them after nearly 20 years in the sport.
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By myownalias
#166330
I don't blame Williams for vetoing a 14th team; BMW should have been thinking ahead and signed the Concorde agreement then this wouldn't be an issue. Besides with smaller teams like Williams struggling for sponsorship, you can't blame them when the lucrative Petronas sponsorship will be up for grabs next season, ultimately it's survival of the fittest. BMW should take the blame for the demise of the Sauber name for being selfish and not considering the future of the Hinwii based team!
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