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[headless]

(knock on wood)

Touch wood

[racechick]

There will be blood

But in the end: Alonso is better and will beat Massa; Kimi is better and will beat Lewis.

I was thinking of putting a double on at the bookies the exact opposite of that

Yeah I agree opposite. Although all four are highly talented. Alonso will have a severe bout of paranoia and tantrums-massa is already a loved ferrari boy and has delivered. Of course there is the issue of recovery from the accident with Felippe.

Kimi can be devastating but i dont think he's hungry enough. lewis is devastating and hungry.

Dont think lewis and kimi will have a problem with each other but do think Alonso will have a problem with Massa.

[cap-dude]

There will be blood

But in the end: Alonso is better and will beat Massa; Kimi is better and will beat Lewis.

I was thinking of putting a double on at the bookies the exact opposite of that

Yeah I agree opposite. Although all four are highly talented. Alonso will have a severe bout of paranoia and tantrums-massa is already a loved ferrari boy and has delivered. Of course there is the issue of recovery from the accident with Felippe.

Kimi can be devastating but i dont think he's hungry enough. lewis is devastating and hungry.

Dont think lewis and kimi will have a problem with each other but do think Alonso will have a problem with Massa.

I do honestly think Kimi is hungry. But I think he doesn't show it. I mean, we only see Kimi through the media, and Kimi hates the media. I just think we don't get an accurate depiction at times. If he didn't have the hunger, surely he would be going to WRC.

I've been thinking as well. It'll be interesting to watch Alonso as well. All of his success really has come from Renault, where Renault gave him clear No1 status. The moment he moved to McLaren, it fell apart. I'm just interested to see how he handles the move to Ferrari.

[JamesD89]

All of his success really has come from Renault, where Renault gave him clear No1 status. The moment he moved to McLaren, it fell apart.

He missed out on the championship by 1 point. That's not falling apart.

[myownalias]

Massa and Alonso already have a history of heated exchanges and now they are going to be team mates, and it seems going by Alonso's history; wherever Alonso goes; scandal surely follows; no-one can deny that! Massa already starting with the mind games and next season hasn't even started yet; will Massa beat Alonso? I don't know but I believe he will match the Spaniard for the most part; I can't see Alonso blowing Massa away next season.

The Lewis Hamilton and Kimi Raikkonen situation will be just fine; I just get the feeling that Kimi will be happy to pick up his paycheck while Lewis goes all out to win as normal. I see no conflict at McLaren next season should the Finn make a return to McLaren. We can voice our opinions about who we think is best; but that is subjective; Alonso/Massa and Hamilton/Raikkonen is unknown in the same car; all I will say is LET THE BEST DRIVER WIN!

[7UpJordan]

Kimi can be devastating but i dont think he's hungry enough. lewis is devastating and hungry.

Kimi's not hungry... he's thirsty.

[headless]

Kimi can be devastating but i dont think he's hungry enough. lewis is devastating and hungry.

Kimi's not hungry... he's thirsty.

Gordons

[racechick]

There will be blood

But in the end: Alonso is better and will beat Massa; Kimi is better and will beat Lewis.

I was thinking of putting a double on at the bookies the exact opposite of that

Yeah I agree opposite. Although all four are highly talented. Alonso will have a severe bout of paranoia and tantrums-massa is already a loved ferrari boy and has delivered. Of course there is the issue of recovery from the accident with Felippe.

Kimi can be devastating but i dont think he's hungry enough. lewis is devastating and hungry.

Dont think lewis and kimi will have a problem with each other but do think Alonso will have a problem with Massa.

I do honestly think Kimi is hungry. But I think he doesn't show it. I mean, we only see Kimi through the media, and Kimi hates the media. I just think we don't get an accurate depiction at times. If he didn't have the hunger, surely he would be going to WRC.

I've been thinking as well. It'll be interesting to watch Alonso as well. All of his success really has come from Renault, where Renault gave him clear No1 status. The moment he moved to McLaren, it fell apart. I'm just interested to see how he handles the move to Ferrari.

Yes I'd agree with those comments. I really think the kimi and lewis partnership could be fantastic. Like you say not sure how Alonso will handle not being top dog.

[McLaren Fan]

The McLaren situation is interesting. It seems as though Raikkonen has decided he wants to stay in Formula One and would ideally like to return to McLaren. However, as bud said, money could be a problem. I have to say, though, Raikkonen can clear off if he's looking an extra big pay cheque. He's already been given his wages for 2010 from Ferrari, and I don't think he's worth the maximum Formula One driver salary of today.

I agree with cap-dude that Raikkonen is probably motivated. If you look at his performances this year, he's done very well. When he won the title in 2007, even though McLaren were in both a civil war and a war with FIA-Ferrari, Raikkonen sneaked up and won the title. However, Raikkonen dislikes testing and development work. This was acceptable thirty years ago, but not in modern Formula One.

The Ferrari situation is becoming a little more spicy. Massa has hinted he does not like Alonso, and only in the past day or two has been calling Alonso a cheater. The odds are as well that Alonso is going to be Ferrari's de facto number one driver as well. I doubt whether we'll see a repeat of 2007 at Ferrari, though.

[racechick]

The McLaren situation is interesting. It seems as though Raikkonen has decided he wants to stay in Formula One and would ideally like to return to McLaren. However, as bud said, money could be a problem. I have to say, though, Raikkonen can clear off if he's looking an extra big pay cheque. He's already been given his wages for 2010 from Ferrari, and I don't think he's worth the maximum Formula One driver salary of today.

I agree with cap-dude that Raikkonen is probably motivated. If you look at his performances this year, he's done very well. When he won the title in 2007, even though McLaren were in both a civil war and a war with FIA-Ferrari, Raikkonen sneaked up and won the title. However, Raikkonen dislikes testing and development work. This was acceptable thirty years ago, but not in modern Formula One.

The Ferrari situation is becoming a little more spicy. Massa has hinted he does not like Alonso, and only in the past day or two has been calling Alonso a cheater. The odds are as well that Alonso is going to be Ferrari's de facto number one driver as well. I doubt whether we'll see a repeat of 2007 at Ferrari, though.

Hope he's not defacto number 1!

[scotty]

Hope he's not defacto number 1!

He's got two world championships to Massa's zero...

[racechick]

Hope he's not defacto number 1!

He's got two world championships to Massa's zero...

But to get number one status he has to go faster during the year in question! Ferrari need the fastest driver as number one, not one with past championships, otherwise they might as well reinstate jackie Stewart cos he's got three!!

[cap-dude]

Hope he's not defacto number 1!

He's got two world championships to Massa's zero...

Tell that to Lewis Hamilton in 2007

[7UpJordan]

It's funny that a lot of the "Rosberg to McLaren" rumours have died down, but at the same time there are doubts over Kimi going there. In the copy of the "Motorsport News" paper that I get each week one of the interesting cover stories is that Manor have put a bid in for Kimi too.

Maybe at this rate McLaren will be just a 1 car team if they can't decide their line-up... or maybe Paffett will FINALLY get that chance he's been waiting for.

[Juliet P]

Hope he's not defacto number 1!

He's got two world championships to Massa's zero...

But to get number one status he has to go faster during the year in question! Ferrari need the fastest driver as number one, not one with past championships, otherwise they might as well reinstate jackie Stewart cos he's got three!!

Or they could just try to bring Schumi back...