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#157889
Fact is that he did crossed the line.

If rules are meant to be fair, of course the best driver who is fair will win... but fact of life is that when there are rules, usually it is kept to the letter and sometimes without common sense. Sounds like football don't you think?
#157891
It's enjoyable to see Hamilton dominate, but I was annoyed that Rosberg's race got ruined unnecessarily. Petty rules when common sense could prevail meant we were robbed of a justifiably close race.



Common sense being what not too punish him from crossing the white lines? :confused:


Probably to realise it wasn't intentional and merely a mistake, not to gain an advantage. Same thing with Badoer in Valencia - he put his wheel over by an inch and then went back in. Fair enough, if someone pulled right across and ignored the lines completely, punish them. But in both cases where such penalties have been handed out this year, drivers have attempted to rectify their mistakes. If you can give back a position you gained from cutting a chicane and get away with it, then surely if you try to return to the confines of the white line as soon as is possible that should be taken in to consideration?

If rules are meant to be fair, of course the best driver who is fair will win... but fact of life is that when there are rules, usually it is kept to the letter and sometimes without common sense. Sounds like football don't you think?


But in the case of the FIA stewards, that simply isn't the case. They're all over the place with rule decisions like that.
#157893

Common sense being what not too punish him from crossing the white lines? :confused:


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Rules are rules though, If one gets away with it everybody will expect too get away with it, thats just how it is i suppose
#157894
Fact is that he did crossed the line.

If rules are meant to be fair, of course the best driver who is fair will win... but fact of life is that when there are rules, usually it is kept to the letter and sometimes without common sense. Sounds like football don't you think?


Rules should be kept to the letter, it's the letters that should change to permit accidents such as his.

It sounds like football in terms of consistency, but every match has a different ref so it's to be expected. In F1 it's the same guys each week.

If you can give back a position you gained from cutting a chicane and get away with it, then surely if you try to return to the confines of the white line as soon as is possible that should be taken in to consideration?


Yeah, it's exactly the same offense. Good point.
#157907
It's enjoyable to see Hamilton dominate, but I was annoyed that Rosberg's race got ruined unnecessarily. Petty rules when common sense could prevail meant we were robbed of a justifiably close race.



Common sense being what not too punish him from crossing the white lines? :confused:


Being not to punish someone for disadvantaging himself. Cutting the line and getting on track quicker than you should isn't on, it disadvantages everyone else. But losing control of the car and then turning round to get straight back behind the line only disadvantaged one person.

Rules aren't suposed to be draconian, they're suposed to ensure the best driver wins, fairly.


I'm with you James. I think it was unfair to penailse rosberg for a mistake that did not benefit him or affect anyone else. Especially when the pit exit had been altered from the previous year. They could have been a little more considerate.
#157910
It's enjoyable to see Hamilton dominate, but I was annoyed that Rosberg's race got ruined unnecessarily. Petty rules when common sense could prevail meant we were robbed of a justifiably close race.



Common sense being what not too punish him from crossing the white lines? :confused:


Being not to punish someone for disadvantaging himself. Cutting the line and getting on track quicker than you should isn't on, it disadvantages everyone else. But losing control of the car and then turning round to get straight back behind the line only disadvantaged one person.

Rules aren't suposed to be draconian, they're suposed to ensure the best driver wins, fairly.


I'm with you James. I think it was unfair to penailse rosberg for a mistake that did not benefit him or affect anyone else. Especially when the pit exit had been altered from the previous year. They could have been a little more considerate.


ok so i suppose Vettel should have got off with his as well then?
#157917
Rosberg's venture over the white line was punishable. Gaining an advantage or not is beside the point, its a safety thing. He was going too fast coming out of the pits and slid over past the white line.

Its a drive through penalty, no questions asked. No driver ever means to go over the white line. He will just need to be more careful next time exiting the pits.
#157921
Not bad at all, although I think he could have a more positive influence on grosigien that flabio would've, we've yet to really see anything spectacular from him.

And no ones mentioned Force india yet, maybe its another case of their updates are going to shine through in the next race. But they've gotten their points now this season, might as well focus on a good next season.
#157931
Missed the gp earlier today. Watched the BBC3 highlights. Quite an enjoyable race. Renault finally got a podium! Happy Days. 8-)


Not a bad way for Bob Bell to start off as team principal, really. :)


:yes:

He looks quite good at the helm of things at Renault.
#157941
It's enjoyable to see Hamilton dominate, but I was annoyed that Rosberg's race got ruined unnecessarily. Petty rules when common sense could prevail meant we were robbed of a justifiably close race.



Common sense being what not too punish him from crossing the white lines? :confused:


Being not to punish someone for disadvantaging himself. Cutting the line and getting on track quicker than you should isn't on, it disadvantages everyone else. But losing control of the car and then turning round to get straight back behind the line only disadvantaged one person.

Rules aren't suposed to be draconian, they're suposed to ensure the best driver wins, fairly.


I'm with you James. I think it was unfair to penailse rosberg for a mistake that did not benefit him or affect anyone else. Especially when the pit exit had been altered from the previous year. They could have been a little more considerate.


ok so i suppose Vettel should have got off with his as well then?


No. Vettel sped in the pitlane, meaning he got out of the pit lane quicker than he should have - giving him an advantage.
#157942
It's enjoyable to see Hamilton dominate, but I was annoyed that Rosberg's race got ruined unnecessarily. Petty rules when common sense could prevail meant we were robbed of a justifiably close race.



Common sense being what not too punish him from crossing the white lines? :confused:


Being not to punish someone for disadvantaging himself. Cutting the line and getting on track quicker than you should isn't on, it disadvantages everyone else. But losing control of the car and then turning round to get straight back behind the line only disadvantaged one person.

Rules aren't suposed to be draconian, they're suposed to ensure the best driver wins, fairly.


I'm with you James. I think it was unfair to penailse rosberg for a mistake that did not benefit him or affect anyone else. Especially when the pit exit had been altered from the previous year. They could have been a little more considerate.


ok so i suppose Vettel should have got off with his as well then?


No. Vettel sped in the pitlane, meaning he got out of the pit lane quicker than he should have - giving him an advantage.


Or came in to it quicker. :yes:
#157945
It's enjoyable to see Hamilton dominate, but I was annoyed that Rosberg's race got ruined unnecessarily. Petty rules when common sense could prevail meant we were robbed of a justifiably close race.



Common sense being what not too punish him from crossing the white lines? :confused:


Being not to punish someone for disadvantaging himself. Cutting the line and getting on track quicker than you should isn't on, it disadvantages everyone else. But losing control of the car and then turning round to get straight back behind the line only disadvantaged one person.

Rules aren't suposed to be draconian, they're suposed to ensure the best driver wins, fairly.


I'm with you James. I think it was unfair to penailse rosberg for a mistake that did not benefit him or affect anyone else. Especially when the pit exit had been altered from the previous year. They could have been a little more considerate.


ok so i suppose Vettel should have got off with his as well then?


No. Vettel sped in the pitlane, meaning he got out of the pit lane quicker than he should have - giving him an advantage.


I making meself guilty of making this thingy even longer.
Ok come on guys. rules is rules and has to be enforced. if one person is allowed to get away with lil issues like crossing the pit exit line or speeding in the pitlane or overtaking someone by cutting accross a chicane the everybody is going to expect to get away with it. and soon arnarchy rules coz nobody is enforcing the law or rules. only one rules never gets applied - hammie should get a drivethrough penalty if he leads a race for any reason.
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