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#157082
EwmanM.

please post a link if you have it. I'd like to see it.


I'll try hunt it down.

If not I suppose I could try get it off the dvd hmm...
#157084
Bill get over it will ya, Hamilton was not involved in the spy saga what so ever! He had absolutely nothing to do with it while Alonso on the other hand did!


Damnit Bill I'm fawking tired of you alway's offering a 'logical' thought and/or input while knowing good and well that McLaren and Lewis Hamilton can do no wrong!! :irked::hehe:

The FIA will always suck arse when their decision is not in McLaren's favor but their decision's, such as LH having no involvement in Spy-Gate, will be praised as valid and justified. :hehe::rolleyes::irked:
#157086
Ron Dennis is the head of the McLaren group so he is doing just fine; he stepped back because he was fed up of the bullsh*t bureaucracy in F1, he hardly left his post as team principle in shame, he stayed on for a whole season before making his decision to quit as team boss. Fernando Alonso is in an under-performing car which seems to have problems keeping four wheels, I believe that Ron Dennis would be the happier person right now!

We all know that Alonso is a very intelligent man, and yes he used the information to his advantage but he was as guilty as anyone during McLaren's spygate scandal. He not only read Emails, he actively participated and didn't inform the FIA at all. Ron Dennis blew the whistle when Alonso attempted to blackmail him. Alonso's so-called leverage didn't work for him, Ron isn't the sort of man that will take being blackmailed laying down. Alonso lost out, losing his drive and having to take a step back down to Renault!

In my books that makes Alonso guilty of a lot of wrongdoing!


:yes: He's been involved in both of the big scandals. No smoke without fire. And doing anything to get what you want is not an admirable quality in my books.


Interesting that you of all people would say this. So, lets take your logic and use it. How many scandals has your hero Mr. Hamilton been involved in now? Lets see. Spy-gate and Lie-gate are the big ones (same number as Alonso)...but then there are a massive multitude of smaller ones.... Throw-away-the-Championship-in-a-pitlane-graveltrap-gate. Hit-pit-lane-speed-button-gate. Crash-in-Alonso-on-a-straightaway-gate, Crash-into-parked-cars-in-pitlane-gate. Drivers-protesting-his-driving-style-gate. Daddy-is-an-asshole-gate.

I mean seriously, you of all people using the no smoke without fire phrase? Do you apply that logic to Hamilton? He has been in far more controversies than Alonso...FAR MORE....and he has not been in the game for very long.


Get your facts right. lewis wasnt in spygate, it was alonso and de la rosa. Yes he was in liegate, (You'll have your views on that and i have mine) But alonso has been inFAR FAR MORE:)
By Tony_sa
#157092
EwmanM.

please post a link if you have it. I'd like to see it.


I'll try hunt it down.

If not I suppose I could try get it off the dvd hmm...


Here it is :) Its at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFoqRC3Mhx0


Thanx Rivelution - also EwmanM for the effort. this clip is a classic. I really like the way he deals with issues - to the point and no regrets about it.
#157093
EwmanM.

please post a link if you have it. I'd like to see it.


I'll try hunt it down.

If not I suppose I could try get it off the dvd hmm...


Here it is :) Its at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFoqRC3Mhx0


Thanx Rivelution - also EwmanM for the effort. this clip is a classic. I really like the way he deals with issues - to the point and no regrets about it.


I like his smile at the end when walking back. It's like "haha f*** you Ron" :hehe:
#157094
Ron Dennis is the head of the McLaren group so he is doing just fine; he stepped back because he was fed up of the bullsh*t bureaucracy in F1, he hardly left his post as team principle in shame, he stayed on for a whole season before making his decision to quit as team boss. Fernando Alonso is in an under-performing car which seems to have problems keeping four wheels, I believe that Ron Dennis would be the happier person right now!

We all know that Alonso is a very intelligent man, and yes he used the information to his advantage but he was as guilty as anyone during McLaren's spygate scandal. He not only read Emails, he actively participated and didn't inform the FIA at all. Ron Dennis blew the whistle when Alonso attempted to blackmail him. Alonso's so-called leverage didn't work for him, Ron isn't the sort of man that will take being blackmailed laying down. Alonso lost out, losing his drive and having to take a step back down to Renault!

In my books that makes Alonso guilty of a lot of wrongdoing!


:yes: He's been involved in both of the big scandals. No smoke without fire. And doing anything to get what you want is not an admirable quality in my books.


Interesting that you of all people would say this. So, lets take your logic and use it. How many scandals has your hero Mr. Hamilton been involved in now? Lets see. Spy-gate and Lie-gate are the big ones (same number as Alonso)...but then there are a massive multitude of smaller ones.... Throw-away-the-Championship-in-a-pitlane-graveltrap-gate. Hit-pit-lane-speed-button-gate. Crash-in-Alonso-on-a-straightaway-gate, Crash-into-parked-cars-in-pitlane-gate. Drivers-protesting-his-driving-style-gate. Daddy-is-an-asshole-gate.

I mean seriously, you of all people using the no smoke without fire phrase? Do you apply that logic to Hamilton? He has been in far more controversies than Alonso...FAR MORE....and he has not been in the game for very long.


Get your facts right. lewis wasnt in spygate, it was alonso and de la rosa. Yes he was in liegate, (You'll have your views on that and i have mine) But alonso has been inFAR FAR MORE:)


Liegate was one scandal
Spygate was one scandal

So. Far, far more? Hmm...
#157101
Ron Dennis is the head of the McLaren group so he is doing just fine; he stepped back because he was fed up of the bullsh*t bureaucracy in F1, he hardly left his post as team principle in shame, he stayed on for a whole season before making his decision to quit as team boss. Fernando Alonso is in an under-performing car which seems to have problems keeping four wheels, I believe that Ron Dennis would be the happier person right now!

We all know that Alonso is a very intelligent man, and yes he used the information to his advantage but he was as guilty as anyone during McLaren's spygate scandal. He not only read Emails, he actively participated and didn't inform the FIA at all. Ron Dennis blew the whistle when Alonso attempted to blackmail him. Alonso's so-called leverage didn't work for him, Ron isn't the sort of man that will take being blackmailed laying down. Alonso lost out, losing his drive and having to take a step back down to Renault!

In my books that makes Alonso guilty of a lot of wrongdoing!


:yes: He's been involved in both of the big scandals. No smoke without fire. And doing anything to get what you want is not an admirable quality in my books.


Interesting that you of all people would say this. So, lets take your logic and use it. How many scandals has your hero Mr. Hamilton been involved in now? Lets see. Spy-gate and Lie-gate are the big ones (same number as Alonso)...but then there are a massive multitude of smaller ones.... Throw-away-the-Championship-in-a-pitlane-graveltrap-gate. Hit-pit-lane-speed-button-gate. Crash-in-Alonso-on-a-straightaway-gate, Crash-into-parked-cars-in-pitlane-gate. Drivers-protesting-his-driving-style-gate. Daddy-is-an-asshole-gate.

I mean seriously, you of all people using the no smoke without fire phrase? Do you apply that logic to Hamilton? He has been in far more controversies than Alonso...FAR MORE....and he has not been in the game for very long.


Get your facts right. lewis wasnt in spygate, it was alonso and de la rosa. Yes he was in liegate, (You'll have your views on that and i have mine) But alonso has been inFAR FAR MORE:)


Liegate was one scandal
Spygate was one scandal

So. Far, far more? Hmm...


You forgot 'hit the wall scandal'-the worst one. 2 to 1 i reckon, with 'hit the wall scandal weighing in somewhat heavier.
By Tony_sa
#157103
Tex racechick bud - Alonso is not at Ferrari yet and you guys are attacking the man. Fine if it was claimed that he was involved in the spy issue. I didnt follow it as closely as many of you but i dont recall it being published that he was found to be at the center of it or even part of its architecture. maybe you guys need to keep the frustration about the reds team until he in the cockpit. no ??
#157104
Tex racechick bud - Alonso is not at Ferrari yet and you guys are attacking the man. Fine if it was claimed that he was involved in the spy issue. I didnt follow it as closely as many of you but i dont recall it being published that he was found to be at the center of it or even part of its architecture. maybe you guys need to keep the frustration about the reds team until he in the cockpit. no ??


Dont give a damn who he races for. In fact i probably prefer Ferrari to him!
By Tony_sa
#157106
Tex racechick bud - Alonso is not at Ferrari yet and you guys are attacking the man. Fine if it was claimed that he was involved in the spy issue. I didnt follow it as closely as many of you but i dont recall it being published that he was found to be at the center of it or even part of its architecture. maybe you guys need to keep the frustration about the reds team until he in the cockpit. no ??


Dont give a damn who he races for. In fact i probably prefer Ferrari to him!


tsk tsk ...
#157110
You forgot 'hit the wall scandal'-the worst one. 2 to 1 i reckon, with 'hit the wall scandal weighing in somewhat heavier.


..? :confused:

Whats so hard to understand about that?
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