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I thought it was pretty cool of Lewis not to be critical of the team in the post-race interview.
Congrats to Rubens.
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al4x wrote:are we the only ones who found it boring?I thought having Han to watch it with you would make it more exciting to watch?
al4x wrote:are we the only ones who found it boring?It missed Massa. He would have spiced things up...
The other teams want to increase it to 32mm, because they believe that next year's cars will need bigger brakes to last race distances when cars are starting much heavier because of the ban on refuelling - with no fuel stops, cars will be carrying about 100kg more fuel at the start of a race.Williams wanted to use smaller brakes and wanted to bring all the other teams down to their level as well, kinda the oppsite of what they're doing with kers.
Williams are alone in believing they do not need the thicker brakes but their stance still mystifies the other teams, who say they're welcome to run smaller brakes if they want, but why stop the others using bigger ones? The other 12 teams all believe they would have to spend millions on researching expensive brake materials to make 28mm discs last next year.
f1ea wrote:Yes, I think it looked a lot nicer with a lick of blue paint on those concrete wall and the presence of more billboards. But I'm still not a fan of the track.al4x wrote:are we the only ones who found it boring?It missed Massa. He would have spiced things up...
But I didn't find the race boring. No overtaking, nothing super exciting... but it was a good show thanks to Mclaren and Rubens... Red Bull and Jenson went missing, but that's racing. The track looked a LOT nicer this yr.
racechick wrote:Happy B-day ol' gal - we miss ya!EagleF1-27 wrote:McLaren fecked up again then! What on earth were the tyre men up to?Bloody stupid MClaren! What were they playing at! Cost LEwis the race!
Greetings from racechick in turkey! Birthday just been spoilt by McLaren! . But KING LEWIS is back!
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. 
yamashek wrote:Red Bull and their engine...Huh? KR started from 6th!
What the hell was that...
ps: i know Horner ruled out KERS completely for Spa, but with Vettel's engine problem, he is very likely to get the 10 place grid penalty in this season. If the 9th engine comes, would it be beneficial if only Vettel run the KERS system? We saw today that Kimi made 6 places starting from 9th to end on the podium with his KERS.
Sebi, the engine killer
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. Frosty wrote:If the engines weren't that thirsty, the fuel weight would be lower and the brakes would lastbud wrote:Williams. Every other team wanted to increase the width of the brake discs for next year from 28mm to 32 mm so that the current brake materials will last a race with the heavy fuel loads. Because it has been rejected the teams will have to spend more money developing new brake disc materials.Frosty wrote:Seeing the brake issues that have happened this years European GP the teams are most likely have to develop new brake disc material so that they will last next year with all that fuel.... All because a certain team rejected the width increase of the brakes...who rejected that? i havent heard of this before?
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. al4x wrote:are we the only ones who found it boring?You probably watched only with one eye and missed some stuff, eh?
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. darwin_dali wrote:Yes. I'd rather see manufacturers creating more economical engines than just widening the brake discs.Frosty wrote:If the engines weren't that thirsty, the fuel weight would be lower and the brakes would lastbud wrote:Williams. Every other team wanted to increase the width of the brake discs for next year from 28mm to 32 mm so that the current brake materials will last a race with the heavy fuel loads. Because it has been rejected the teams will have to spend more money developing new brake disc materials.Frosty wrote:Seeing the brake issues that have happened this years European GP the teams are most likely have to develop new brake disc material so that they will last next year with all that fuel.... All because a certain team rejected the width increase of the brakes...who rejected that? i havent heard of this before?
darwin_dali wrote:Frosty wrote:If the engines weren't that thirsty, the fuel weight would be lower and the brakes would lastbud wrote:Williams. Every other team wanted to increase the width of the brake discs for next year from 28mm to 32 mm so that the current brake materials will last a race with the heavy fuel loads. Because it has been rejected the teams will have to spend more money developing new brake disc materials.Frosty wrote:Seeing the brake issues that have happened this years European GP the teams are most likely have to develop new brake disc material so that they will last next year with all that fuel.... All because a certain team rejected the width increase of the brakes...who rejected that? i havent heard of this before?
7UpJordan wrote:Nah, they can cut back the revs more - speeds/lap times are still improving. Nothing wrong with REALLY slowing them down by cutting the revs.darwin_dali wrote:Frosty wrote:If the engines weren't that thirsty, the fuel weight would be lower and the brakes would lastbud wrote:Williams. Every other team wanted to increase the width of the brake discs for next year from 28mm to 32 mm so that the current brake materials will last a race with the heavy fuel loads. Because it has been rejected the teams will have to spend more money developing new brake disc materials.Frosty wrote:Seeing the brake issues that have happened this years European GP the teams are most likely have to develop new brake disc material so that they will last next year with all that fuel.... All because a certain team rejected the width increase of the brakes...who rejected that? i havent heard of this before?
Normally the logical route would be "reduce the revs" but really that's not an option with the whiny 2.4L V8's considering how much the revs have been cut back already from the days of 20K plus in 2006. I think the return of the Turbos is needed.
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. darwin_dali wrote:I'd prefer turbos over rev-cuts on the current ones. It would also bring in a new engineering aspect to the sport which could shift the balance and make for a bit of entertainment.7UpJordan wrote:Nah, they can cut back the revs more - speeds/lap times are still improving. Nothing wrong with REALLY slowing them down by cutting the revs.darwin_dali wrote:Frosty wrote:If the engines weren't that thirsty, the fuel weight would be lower and the brakes would lastbud wrote:Williams. Every other team wanted to increase the width of the brake discs for next year from 28mm to 32 mm so that the current brake materials will last a race with the heavy fuel loads. Because it has been rejected the teams will have to spend more money developing new brake disc materials.Frosty wrote:Seeing the brake issues that have happened this years European GP the teams are most likely have to develop new brake disc material so that they will last next year with all that fuel.... All because a certain team rejected the width increase of the brakes...who rejected that? i havent heard of this before?
Normally the logical route would be "reduce the revs" but really that's not an option with the whiny 2.4L V8's considering how much the revs have been cut back already from the days of 20K plus in 2006. I think the return of the Turbos is needed.
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