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#145047
Ferrari seem to have fallen back somewhat with KImi in 6th.

I dunno, i believe that's one better for Raikkonen than at Hungary, so in theory a podium is very much on the cards for them here too if he gets as good a start tomorrow as he did 4 weeks back. Plenty of fuel on board too...

I was thinking more about as a team with Badoer in last place so an aggregate position of 14th for Ferrari.

Come on, we both know that his performance today is hardly a good indicator of true pace... :P

If Badoer is testing new parts such as Aero packages etc then it isn't working; if he is planning on being a mobile roadblock to help Raikkonen out then more than likely the stewards/FIA will come down on Ferrari like a ton of bricks as it would be obvious to everyone what is going on as the second Ferrari isn't that slow.


It's more a case of him using the weekend as a testing session to get used to the car. He's raced at Spa and Monza several times before. By then he should have the equivalent of two grand prix distances under his belt, so should have a much better chance of making progress. It would be ridiculous to drop him after Valencia, regardless of his performance.
#145053
hmm hamliton may have still taken pole of course, but now it looks possible for heki to leapfrog him as long as he keeps pace(I think thats all the team will ask for in terms of his drive).

In one of the practice sessions it was mentioned Ferrari were engineering Baodoer's car to the same standard as Massa. Well it would make sense to stick new parts on his car I suppose, seeing as he was unlikey to get any points anyway but I can't see it being intentional for him to be so damn slow.
#145056
hmm hamliton may have still taken pole of course, but now it looks possible for heki to leapfrog him as long as he keeps pace(I think thats all the team will ask for in terms of his drive).

If HK can keep up or exceed Lewis's race pace i will be very happy because with the exception of China which was wet he has yet to do that this season and i don't think he did it much last season. Lewis's will probably run quite a long and fast middle stint if HK can keep up there i will be very impressed.
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#145057
hmm hamliton may have still taken pole of course, but now it looks possible for heki to leapfrog him as long as he keeps pace(I think thats all the team will ask for in terms of his drive).

In one of the practice sessions it was mentioned Ferrari were engineering Baodoer's car to the same standard as Massa. Well it would make sense to stick new parts on his car I suppose, seeing as he was unlikey to get any points anyway but I can't see it being intentional for him to be so damn slow.



woo! 115th post :director: (well I missed out my 100th mark), I've racked them up fast.
#145068
I'm a little bit frustrated with McLaren's qualifying. The team used up a couple more laps of fuel than they needed to, and could certainly have put more fuel in tanks. Kovalainen did well, especially saying as he's running the longer wheelbase and a lap's worth more of fuel. Still, I think McLaren have enough raw pace to win the race tomorrow, especially if the track temperature falls a couple of degrees.

Brawn don't really look that much better. They are lucky that Red Bull aren't at the races this weekend and McLaren are back to where they should be, otherwise they'd be in more trouble.

The biggest surprise for me was BMW. No doubt the team have made some improvements, but I suspect it also has something to with Kubica and Heidfeld getting their arse in gear, in searching for contracts for next season. Shameful.
#145069
I hope Lewis crashes out. Stuff him. And as for his team mate. ALthough Kova is ok, the team he represents are cursed. I hope he crashes as well. But if it has to be one of the McLarens only that crash or doesn't make it, better that be Lewis Hamilton of course. :hehe:

I think I love you AKR. :hehe::P


Really? Ok then, mille baci per te. :wink::hehe:

Oh stop it!
#145072
I'm a little bit frustrated with McLaren's qualifying. The team used up a couple more laps of fuel than they needed to, and could certainly have put more fuel in tanks. Kovalainen did well, especially saying as he's running the longer wheelbase and a lap's worth more of fuel. Still, I think McLaren have enough raw pace to win the race tomorrow, especially if the track temperature falls a couple of degrees.

Brawn don't really look that much better. They are lucky that Red Bull aren't at the races this weekend and McLaren are back to where they should be, otherwise they'd be in more trouble.

Except for how Barrichello's was the best qualifying lap :rolleyes:
#145073
Just heard in interesting theory - Ferrari should fix it tomorrow so Badoer puts it in the wall for a Safety Car just after Raikkonen has pitted... :hehe:

edit: also seems like Trulli is going to start from the pits tomorrow following a major grip/straight line speed issue, necessitating the changing of several parts.

I hope not his beautiful part we used to admire in that picture where he's going cross-country :yikes:
#145074
The biggest surprise for me was BMW. No doubt the team have made some improvements, but I suspect it also has something to with Kubica and Heidfeld getting their arse in gear, in searching for contracts for next season. Shameful.


Because, you know, they've just been having leisurely Sunday drives around town all year... >.<

I'm a little bit frustrated with McLaren's qualifying. The team used up a couple more laps of fuel than they needed to, and could certainly have put more fuel in tanks. Kovalainen did well, especially saying as he's running the longer wheelbase and a lap's worth more of fuel. Still, I think McLaren have enough raw pace to win the race tomorrow, especially if the track temperature falls a couple of degrees.

Brawn don't really look that much better. They are lucky that Red Bull aren't at the races this weekend and McLaren are back to where they should be, otherwise they'd be in more trouble.

Except for how Barrichello's was the best qualifying lap :rolleyes:


:yes:
#145079
I'm a little bit frustrated with McLaren's qualifying. The team used up a couple more laps of fuel than they needed to, and could certainly have put more fuel in tanks. Kovalainen did well, especially saying as he's running the longer wheelbase and a lap's worth more of fuel. Still, I think McLaren have enough raw pace to win the race tomorrow, especially if the track temperature falls a couple of degrees.

Brawn don't really look that much better. They are lucky that Red Bull aren't at the races this weekend and McLaren are back to where they should be, otherwise they'd be in more trouble.

Except for how Barrichello's was the best qualifying lap :rolleyes:

Lewis set his pole time when he had 18-19 laps of fuel in the car... I'm not to sure!
[EDIT] As McLaren fan said wasted far to much fuel on pointless laps could of been in a better position they didn't even need to be 1-2... 3-4 would of done they would of been first by the first corner anyway.
#145094
I'm a little bit frustrated with McLaren's qualifying. The team used up a couple more laps of fuel than they needed to, and could certainly have put more fuel in tanks. Kovalainen did well, especially saying as he's running the longer wheelbase and a lap's worth more of fuel. Still, I think McLaren have enough raw pace to win the race tomorrow, especially if the track temperature falls a couple of degrees.

Brawn don't really look that much better. They are lucky that Red Bull aren't at the races this weekend and McLaren are back to where they should be, otherwise they'd be in more trouble.

Except for how Barrichello's was the best qualifying lap :rolleyes:


*fuel corrected.

And don't forget Lewis went around the track two additonal times (all the time using fuel) then pitted then aborted his 2nd lap which was looking faster.
#145096
I'm a little bit frustrated with McLaren's qualifying. The team used up a couple more laps of fuel than they needed to, and could certainly have put more fuel in tanks. Kovalainen did well, especially saying as he's running the longer wheelbase and a lap's worth more of fuel. Still, I think McLaren have enough raw pace to win the race tomorrow, especially if the track temperature falls a couple of degrees.

Brawn don't really look that much better. They are lucky that Red Bull aren't at the races this weekend and McLaren are back to where they should be, otherwise they'd be in more trouble.

Except for how Barrichello's was the best qualifying lap :rolleyes:


*fuel corrected.

And don't forget Lewis went around the track two additonal times (all the time using fuel) then pitted then aborted his 2nd lap which was looking faster.

I think he did 4 laps after he set that pole time where as Rubens set his time on final run correct. Also i just realised something if Rubens gets a even remote poor start like in some previous races then Kimi may overtake him into the first corner now that would be interesting.
#145099
Just reviewed the interview Jake did with Domenicali on the build up to qualifying and apart from admiring Jakes tenacity with pushing for an answer on the question of nando joining for 2010, I think Domenicali was having a little dig at BADoer in his response.

Jake asks if nando is a good driver and Domenicali agrees that he is. Then Jake asks rhetorically "he is fast isn't he?", to which Domenicali replies wryly 'all the drivers are fast' then with a smile 'well most of them'. :)

What is all this bull about them rewarding BADoer because he has been mucking out the stables at mugello for 100 years? It doesn't make sense. I think collectively they have all took a hit to the head.

Also thought it was funny when we saw BADoer fall off his bike and send Rob Smedly face first into an apex.
#145115
*fuel corrected.

That was unnecessary, that I was talking fuel-corrected, which is the correct way to judge the qualifying, was implied.
#145120
*fuel corrected.

That was unnecessary, that I was talking fuel-corrected, which is the correct way to judge the qualifying, was implied.

What were trying to say is that the way the BBC are doing the fuel correction is flawed. because they take the fuel load from when the driver finishes rather than when he actually did the lap...
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