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#145009
Calm guys and dolls. Don't make me start... or we'll be here all night...

Is that a threat or a promise?


LOL, remember which club I was so called president of. I'll hold my tounge tho. :hehe:
#145010
Just heard in interesting theory - Ferrari should fix it tomorrow so Badoer puts it in the wall for a Safety Car just after Raikkonen has pitted... :hehe:

edit: also seems like Trulli is going to start from the pits tomorrow following a major grip/straight line speed issue, necessitating the changing of several parts.
#145014

It wont matter. You wont win and I would never submit to even looking at McLaren if they were to succeed in the future. I would rather walk away then acknowledge rubbish.


How do you live with that much blind faith and passion? Don't get me wrong, from one point of view I admire your belief and single-mindedness, but my goodness, I think 5 minutes of being you and I'd be exhausted...


Probably upbringing. Don't know. But when I see Ferrari racing, I feel somewhat patriotic. But I sense more. When I am in certain other countries outside of Italy, I get a similar sense as well. Actually in one particualr place I get sometimes a very agressive sense of this that Ferrari is great and its main rival is scum. What can you do. Right now I am quite annoyed at the fact that McLaren have one and two on the grid. Had it been the Red Bulls or the Brawns I wouldnt care. But then again some people here dont like the Brawns either. Btw I am not in Italy nor Slovenija at the moment but who cares. I think I have gone a little over the top now. My appologies. Got to go and watch football now. Later.



Agression leads anger, and to the dark side anger leads. :yoda:
#145015
Calm guys and dolls. Don't make me start... or we'll be here all night...

Is that a threat or a promise?


LOL, remember which club I was so called president of. I'll hold my tounge tho. :hehe:

Not really do you have a reference? Holding your tongue, now that's HOT! :hehe:
#145021
the bbc have done there fuel adjusted gird now:

1 Rubens Barrichello lap 19
2 Heikki Kovalainen +0.216secs (lap 16)
3 Lewis Hamilton +0.249 (lap 15)
4 Jenson Button +0.291 (lap 18)
5 Sebastian Vettel +0.507 (lap 16)
6 Nico Rosberg +0.540 (lap 20)
7 Mark Webber +0.610 (lap 20)
8 Kimi Raikkonen +0.614 (lap 18)
9 Fernando Alonso +0.871 (lap 17)
10 Robert Kubica +1.114 (lap 17)

heki out qualified hama without the nice upgrades. looks bad for kimi though, although that hasn't taken into account the kers button at the start.
#145023
the bbc have done there fuel adjusted gird now:

1 Rubens Barrichello lap 19
2 Heikki Kovalainen +0.216secs (lap 16)
3 Lewis Hamilton +0.249 (lap 15)
4 Jenson Button +0.291 (lap 18)
5 Sebastian Vettel +0.507 (lap 16)
6 Nico Rosberg +0.540 (lap 20)
7 Mark Webber +0.610 (lap 20)
8 Kimi Raikkonen +0.614 (lap 18)
9 Fernando Alonso +0.871 (lap 17)
10 Robert Kubica +1.114 (lap 17)

heki out qualified hama without the nice upgrades. looks bad for kimi though, although that hasn't taken into account the kers button at the start.


I think Lewis prob had more fuel/same as hekki when he actualy set his pole lap.

since lewis did the lap then went around 2 more times for some silly reason
Last edited by Gaz on 22 Aug 09, 19:29, edited 1 time in total.
#145024
the bbc have done there fuel adjusted gird now:

1 Rubens Barrichello lap 19
2 Heikki Kovalainen +0.216secs (lap 16)
3 Lewis Hamilton +0.249 (lap 15)
4 Jenson Button +0.291 (lap 18)
5 Sebastian Vettel +0.507 (lap 16)
6 Nico Rosberg +0.540 (lap 20)
7 Mark Webber +0.610 (lap 20)
8 Kimi Raikkonen +0.614 (lap 18)
9 Fernando Alonso +0.871 (lap 17)
10 Robert Kubica +1.114 (lap 17)

heki out qualified hama without the nice upgrades. looks bad for kimi though, although that hasn't taken into account the kers button at the start.



Thanks Vaptin :)

I still think Lewis was faster than Heikki on the day. He didn't complete that last lap.

EDIT: Longbow beat me to it
#145027
I think Lewis prob had more fuel/same as hekki when he actualy set his pole lap.

since lewis did the lap then went around 2 more times


I think Hamilton would have grabbed pole regardless, cause he was on a lap then abandoned it after Kov didn't beat him, if you get me. Although i guess that depends if his lap was actually quicker, etc etc. Irrelevant anyway.

I suppose that because we at least have both the McLarens on the front row, there's still potential for one of them to actually gain the lead into the first corner on the merit of a great start, something that doesn't seem to have happened for ages. :P
#145035
Ferrari seem to have fallen back somewhat with KImi in 6th.

I dunno, i believe that's one better for Raikkonen than at Hungary, so in theory a podium is very much on the cards for them here too if he gets as good a start tomorrow as he did 4 weeks back. Plenty of fuel on board too...

I was thinking more about as a team with Badoer in last place so an aggregate position of 14th for Ferrari.
#145040
Ferrari seem to have fallen back somewhat with KImi in 6th.

I dunno, i believe that's one better for Raikkonen than at Hungary, so in theory a podium is very much on the cards for them here too if he gets as good a start tomorrow as he did 4 weeks back. Plenty of fuel on board too...

I was thinking more about as a team with Badoer in last place so an aggregate position of 14th for Ferrari.


Come on, we both know that his performance today is hardly a good indicator of true pace... :P
#145043
I think Lewis prob had more fuel/same as hekki when he actualy set his pole lap.

since lewis did the lap then went around 2 more times


I think Hamilton would have grabbed pole regardless, cause he was on a lap then abandoned it after Kov didn't beat him, if you get me. Although i guess that depends if his lap was actually quicker, etc etc. Irrelevant anyway.

I suppose that because we at least have both the McLarens on the front row, there's still potential for one of them to actually gain the lead into the first corner on the merit of a great start, something that doesn't seem to have happened for ages. :P


yeh his 2nd lap was looking faster i do hate all this fuel corrected stuff tho can't wait till next years low fuel runs
#145045
Personal opinion is that McLaren should have fueled up the cars with a few more laps because if they were on the second row both of them would be in the lead by the time they get to the first corner and then have more fuel. I hope HK and Lewis can drive away I will admit that Rubens is in a very strong position Lewis and HK need to build something like a 8-10 second gap before the first round of pit stops to come out ahead of Rubens after the first round. If they do that then it's pretty much in the bag if not then they will need to work really hard to make sure they are ahead after the second round of stops. I expect this will be a race won by tyre management whoever tyres last the longest will win.
#145046
Ferrari seem to have fallen back somewhat with KImi in 6th.

I dunno, i believe that's one better for Raikkonen than at Hungary, so in theory a podium is very much on the cards for them here too if he gets as good a start tomorrow as he did 4 weeks back. Plenty of fuel on board too...

I was thinking more about as a team with Badoer in last place so an aggregate position of 14th for Ferrari.

Come on, we both know that his performance today is hardly a good indicator of true pace... :P

If Badoer is testing new parts such as Aero packages etc then it isn't working; if he is planning on being a mobile roadblock to help Raikkonen out then more than likely the stewards/FIA will come down on Ferrari like a ton of bricks as it would be obvious to everyone what is going on as the second Ferrari isn't that slow.
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